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Alfie's Army


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Been following it a bit.

 

I can't really find it in myself to knock the parents. As I can't imagine how I'd react if I was in the same position as they are.

 

But, the hangers on who are slurring Alder Hey as "murderers" and amplifying a false narrative of him being prevented from travelling to Italy "for treatment" - there is no treatment. It's a degenerative undiagnosed neurological condition which has turned 70 odd percent of his brain into water and cerebrospinal fluid - need to get a grip and stop lashing out at dedicated medical professionals who have done their best to help the poor lad.

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Been following it a bit.

 

I can't really find it in myself to knock the parents. As I can't imagine how I'd react if I was in the same position as they are.

 

But, the hangers on who are slurring Alder Hey as "murderers" and amplifying a false narrative of him being prevented from travelling to Italy "for treatment" - there is no treatment. It's a degenerative undiagnosed neurological condition which has turned 70 odd percent of his brain into water and cerebrospinal fluid - need to get a grip and stop lashing out at dedicated medical professionals who have done their best to help the poor lad.

Whilst I agree, you've got to question where you'd draw the line. If you come to a point where you're disagreeing with medical professionals and independent doctors and then by the high court, there must be some doubt that one of the best hospitals probably hasn't got killing your child in its interests.

 

The whole media campaign has been detrimental to Alder Hey which is really sad to see.

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It looks like social services have now intervened. It seems the letter that's been circulated on social media failed to include that should they act on the advice, social service could request a care protection order.

 

They could lose all parental rights if they haven't already.

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I'd probably be doing exactly what they're doing in their situation, but have got no time for some of the hangers on you get in cases like this, people who hang around outside hospitals with placards shouting the odds on Granada Reports like they understand medicine better than the world's best doctors. They're usually the kind of people who like to outdo each other in how much they say they hate paedophiles.

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I can understand the parental emotion. I can, I get it. You want the best for your child, you want the smallest window of hope. Whatever the outcome - you have him the chance I get that.

 

So, if that's within the child's best interest, why haven't Alder Hey discharged him and helped the parents with the transport? Why have numerous doctors agreed against the parent demands? Why have numerous courts sided with Alder Hey towards the legality of ending his life? In turn, why have social services now stepped in and blocked the removal completely? That's numerous professionals with no association other than the interests of Alfie.

 

Should they remove him and he dies, that's akin to torture. As a parent would you want your child to die a painful and torturous death? Or would you risk that for a chance in Italy? I don't know how I'd cope with the first.

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Heartbreaking situation. I have all the sympathy for anybody who goes through anything like this, but imho the hospital are getting the shitty end of the press coverage. I agree with the comments about the hangers on, and there are now people putting things on Faceaids saying Release Alfie, it's a little creepy.

 

The dad's questioning of the doctors left me cold too, especially when he started quoting the 10 commandments as part of his questions.

 

I just hoping the kid isn't suffering.

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It doesn't help that the god bothering legal bods are getting imvolved either, pushing their own agenda more than anything else.

 

The current situation appears to be that they have a letter of legal advice from their Christian legal advisors who've advised that it's lawful to remove him from the hospital.

 

Alder Hey are doing the right thing here. There's talk of an air ambulance and medical team on standby, but if there's any slight danger of the child suffering and/or dying, Alder Hey have to look at the ethics of following such a course of action.

 

The whole thing looks like it may end quite unpleasantly, with the parents either being handcuffed and temporarily arrested or removed from the hospital altogether if/when any machinery is switched off.

 

That, sadly, will be entitely their own doing.

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It doesn't help that the god bothering legal bods are getting imvolved either, pushing their own agenda more than anything else.

 

 

That, sadly, will be entitely their own doing.

Thats the issue with the Vatican getting involved. If there hospital really thought they could help why have they not offered to come over here and show the 'treatment'. Do people really think the hospital wants to just stop treatment if there is a hope. Of course they dont.

 

Even apart from that what sort of life would the kid have if they could just stop it getting worse and keep him alive

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I haven't been following this other than seeing the odd tweet on my Twitter feed. I hadn't realised there was a protest outside.

 

I suppose it's how you are involved as to how you view it. From my point of view, as a dispassionate observer I find this a bit unsavoury and a little bit threatening. Not helped by the false hope the Church are pushing.

 

From the parents' point of view I suppose they are desperately clinging to hope. I agree about the hangers on though. Also his father's talk about him being executed is very unsavoury.

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Just read that Alder Hey have asked for protestors outside the hospital to manage their noise and consider other patients at the hospital.

 

There were scrotes doing wheelies on scrambler bikes the other day. And they've set up a karaoke machine and a bouncy castle near the hospital.

 

Ridiculous.

 

If thats true. Its a bloody disgrace.  I Genuinely dread to think where society is heading......

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How do you reach the point where you think that having a noisy mass protest outside a children's hospital is a good idea?

 

Are the patients, parents and staff not already under enough stress?

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Was having a look at the hashtag and some of the Facebook comments. After doing so, Kerry makes this sound tempting.

 

 

Kerry Kevan

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Absolutely sickening!.They are disgusting! Alfie's fighting for his God Given right to life & to live! Alder Hey better get over 136,000 bullets, cos they're gonna have to put one in every single Army supporter before they get to Alfie! That's a certainty & a promise right there!

 

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