Manchester Arena Explosions?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

In a thread about a bloke who's Imman said he'd stopped going to mosque because of their anti-IS stance you think it's weird to be talking about IS inspiration? I prefer it when you are your alter-ego.

Alter ego?

 

What are you on about, you proper weird arl biff.

[Kloppite]

If you're taking about the other night, the bastard was born here.

 

What excuse did they use before 911?

 

Er, foreign policy ffs.

Foreign policy was to blame for them killing people in their own country.

 

What has foreign policy even done to him?

[Dr Nowt]

Kloppite making Danny Dyer's 911 tweet seem profound in comparison.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I see there's a video of United fans, on the ale aleady, congregating on the streets of Stockholm singing "you can stick your fucking ISIS up your arse."

 

Whilst I don't disagree with that sentiment, I'm sure that that'll end well....

[Kloppite]

Kloppite making Danny Dyer's 911 tweet seem profound in comparison.

Okay then if I strap a nail bomb to myself and walk into a mosque and blow myself up and kill a load of others in the process I will blame isis foreign policy even though isis foreign policy never done a thing to me but I am right to claim that I am doing it because of isis foreign policy.

[Pureblood]

You'd think that if a British citizen inspired by ideology originating in the middle east was prepared to mass murder people in Manchester it would be a time for quiet introspection, to ask what we're doing wrong in that part of the world. But no, it's all brushed under the carpet. Instead the perpetrator is labelled as a nutter who can't possibly be of sound mind and it's all on them. Nothing to do with intervention in the middle east. Our hands are clean, honest.

[Jenson]

Katy Hopkins too. 

 

I like my phone too much to have that hateful bitch on my timeline. The only reason I follow Piers Morgan is because I want to see his shameless U-turn when it all goes tits up for The Donald.

[Rico1304]

Funny how violent Islamic fundamentalism was barely even a concept until western governments decided they wanted to 'stop the spread of communism' and started funding these loons.

How did the religion spread? I'd say that was fundamentalism.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Big raid going off in Manchester city centre, apparently.

[Hand Shandy]

How does any religion spread? Through conquest and conversion, often enforced.

 

I hope you aren't suggesting Islam stands alone in that respect.

[Hand Shandy]

I also find it deeply ironic that people espouse the banning of religion, any religion, as a means of protecting our freedoms.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

From the Guardian:

 

"Sir Lawrence Freedman, the historian, strategic studies specialist and member of the Chilcot inquiry panel, has posted an interesting thread on Twitter, prompted by the Manchester attack, on what constitutes success for a counter-terrorism strategy.

 

Lawrence Freedman

(@LawDavF)

It is often undertaken as revenge for Western policies and as an objection to Western values and way of life./6

 

May 24, 2017

 

Lawrence Freedman

(@LawDavF)

For individual terrorists the attack itself is a political statement and they have succeeded if they have killed, maimed and destroyed. /7"

 

I suppose he's wrong too?

[Stickman]

You are all totally wrong regarding your views on fundamentalism and religion the real reason why he committed this atrocity, according to James Harkin in The Daily Mail is it was due to the fact Ariana Grande was wearing teeny weeny skirts...

 

 

 

JAMES HARKIN: How Ariana Grande and her revealing stage outfits are a symbol of everything Islamists hate 

 

James Harkin writes that an Ariana Grande concert was targeted by Islamic terrorists due to the singer's revealing stage outfits and unabashed sexual confidence

[Section_31]

To be honest I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post some Ariana Grande pics, wasn't aware of her before but she looks quite tidy.

[Kloppite]

You are all totally wrong regarding your views on fundamentalism and religion the real reason why he committed this atrocity, according to James Harkin in The Daily Mail is it was due to the fact Ariana Grande was wearing teeny weeny skirts...

 

 

 

JAMES HARKIN: How Ariana Grande and her revealing stage outfits are a symbol of everything Islamists hate

James Harkin writes that an Ariana Grande concert was targeted by Islamic terrorists due to the singer's revealing stage outfits and unabashed sexual confidence

And to think zonko and a few others think it's because of foreign policy.

[Moo]

Okay then if I strap a nail bomb to myself and walk into a mosque and blow myself up and kill a load of others in the process I will blame isis foreign policy even though isis foreign policy never done a thing to me but I am right to claim that I am doing it because of isis foreign policy.

It depends, what would your reason be? If your reason was revenge for something ISIS related then yes you'd be right to blame it on "isis foreign policy".

[Moo]

 

What has foreign policy even done to him?

To him personally? You must be trolling now. What had Hitler done to Britain before we took him on?

[setreal]

It depends, what would your reason be? If your reason was revenge for something ISIS related then yes you'd be right to blame it on "isis foreign policy".

 

His point is moot anyway, because he would never do it. The question is what drives people to actually execute a thing like that? What makes them willing to end their own life?

[Rico1304]

How does any religion spread? Through conquest and conversion, often enforced.

I hope you aren't suggesting Islam stands alone in that respect.

where did I say anything g like that? But it's hardly the 'religion of peace' is it?

[Kloppite]

It depends, what would your reason be? If your reason was revenge for something ISIS related then yes you'd be right to blame it on "isis foreign policy".

Okay then I want to commit mass murder and I can claim that in so doing I was doing it as a result of isis foreign policy.

 

Glad you cleared that up for me.

[Moo]

Okay then I want to commit mass murder and I can claim that in so doing I was doing it as a result of isis foreign policy.

 

Glad you cleared that up for me.

Sounds like you needed it clearing up despite it not being difficult, not sure what you weren't getting.

Your reason is your reason, and absolutely not a justification.

[Kloppite]

Sounds like you needed it clearing up despite it not being difficult, not sure what you weren't getting.

I am thinking people who want to kill will kill regardless of what they claim the reason was they just wanted to kill regardless.

[Hand Shandy]

where did I say anything g like that? But it's hardly the 'religion of peace' is it?

Isn't it? I don't think you've ever said that before.

[Moo]

Just listening live to BBC R5 (based in Salford) and they've just been evacuated while on air. Hopefully just a precaution.

[Rico1304]

Isn't it? I don't think you've ever said that before.

I am thinking people who want to kill will kill regardless of what they claim the reason was they just wanted to kill regardless.

If that were the case there'd be an equal distribution of killers claiming religious inspiration.