Summer 2017 Transfer Thread

[andyj]

fuck the apology just throw southampton 60m and get VVD signed

[Jay86]

I wouldn't take Klopps comments too seriously at the moment, if by September the situation is the same and his words rang true then is the time to worry!

 

We'll be fucked going into the season with this squad, Milner is not good enough as a centre mid, never has been a centre mid and as he gets older he never will be and Moreno, despite playing amazing against Bayern (i haven't seen the Bilbao game) how can we be sure that he's still not useless?

 

Unless, judging by Klopps comments, he had some sort of issue last season whether that was physical or mentally because now he's "100%" back, where the fucks he been? I don't think anyone thought the ability went away because most thought he didn't have the ability in the first place. We need Van Dijk or alternative as a bare minimum, then if we can't get Keita which looks increasingly unlikely we need to get in someone else because there's no hope in hell he comes here next season. FSG will have a hell of a lot to answer for if we start the season on fire and falter because of a lack of a squad, AGAIN.

[stringvest]

I despair at the utter load of horseshite Klopp has come out with today.

 

Cue the band of merry cunts to come along and tell us we're all hysterical for being worried we won't strengthen.

 

Once we sell Sakho and a few other wantaways we'll be turning a profit once again.

 

 

if that is Klopp coming out with that, surely he's looking to wind the fanbase up.

[eeyore]

I wouldn't take Klopps comments too seriously at the moment, if by September the situation is the same and his words rang true then is the time to worry!

 

We'll be fucked going into the season with this squad, Milner is not good enough as a centre mid, never has been a centre mid and as he gets older he never will be and Moreno, despite playing amazing against Bayern (i haven't seen the Bilbao game) how can we be sure that he's still not useless?

 

Unless, judging by Klopps comments, he had some sort of issue last season whether that was physical or mentally because now he's "100%" back, where the fucks he been? I don't think anyone thought the ability went away because most thought he didn't have the ability in the first place. We need Van Dijk or alternative as a bare minimum, then if we can't get Keita which looks increasingly unlikely we need to get in someone else because there's no hope in hell he comes here next season. FSG will have a hell of a lot to answer for if we start the season on fire and falter because of a lack of a squad, AGAIN.

Do you not remember last summer and klopp talking exactly the same?

[Lee909]

And now all the club mouth pieces are starting the "Everythings good campaign"

 

Already read how Ben Woodburn is our new game changer.
 

I can understand waiting on Keita.

In a ideal world i would like to have seen Ings,Origi and Sturridge out for a top quality striker giving us two good option and the likes of Solanke,Mane etc as 3/4 choice

 

 

What i cannot wrap my head around is thinking that Klavan,Gomez are good enough to be 3/4 choices especially with bloody Lovren as a starter and a starting pair that missed loads of time last year

 

 

There has to be concerns over Matip and Lovren even playing a long run of game together

 

You can trust Henderson,Sturridge,Lallana or Coutinho to play every week either

[Numero Veinticinco]

I wouldn't take Klopps comments too seriously at the moment

But if I don't take Klopp's comments seriously, and read into them, how will I whip myself up into a frenzy and fire bombs at the manager and the owners? Nope, sorry, I'm going to read into them that we're selling Coutinho to fund another yacht for the owners. FSG and Klopp - the stooge - get get out.

[Jay86]

Do you not remember last summer and klopp talking exactly the same?

Last summer was different to this one though and last year I kind of agreed to what was happening, if we could get CL football with the squad he had to save the money to get his top targets this year then it made sense, Klopp was relying on his world class coaching and managing of a football to team to get us there and he did. Now we're there we should be spending the money on the right players, I can't see how there's only one centre back in the world that would considerably improve us and only one centre midfielder, the club briefed the media that there was £200m to spend and we still have a few players who are going to be offloaded so there's no excuse.

[eeyore]

Last summer was different to this one though and last year I kind of agreed to what was happening, if we could get CL football with the squad he had to save the money to get his top targets this year then it made sense, Klopp was relying on his world class coaching and managing of a football to team to get us there and he did. Now we're there we should be spending the money on the right players, I can't see how there's only one centre back in the world that would considerably improve us and only one centre midfielder, the club briefed the media that there was £200m to spend and we still have a few players who are going to be offloaded so there's no excuse.

But you said don't take his comments too seriously?

 

This is how he works.

 

He's stubborn and childish with shit like this.

[Barrington Womble]

Do you remember back in October 2010?

 

Fan activism was not the decisive factor in getting rid of Hicks and Gillette, but it was certainly a major factor.

 

There was loads of progressive talk at the time between fans discussing having shares in the club, or outright fan ownership. Spirit of Shankly had a lot of credibility with match going fans.

 

I think FSG have had two major success. The first was stopping any talk of fan ownership, by either eliminating, or coopting any fan groups who had legitimacy. Their second success was tactfully lowering expectations with Liverpool fans, and they've done that with considerable skill.

 

If you and I sat down in October 2010, and I said " Leicester City are going to win the league title by 10 points, as we have our worst decade since the 1950, paying the highest ticket prices outside of London, and we are owned by American Hedge fund managers who turn up to Anfield twice a year" you would have tried to have me committed to the Arkham Asylum.

I made a choice after 2010 to watch and observe everything the owners did (that was the lesson of H&G in my opinion). My expectations have always been pretty low. I have seen zero from these owners that suggests any level of ambition beyond the value of their asset since. This is purely a business transaction and the risk/reward for aiming higher than they do is not something they're interested in.

[Jay86]

But you said don't take his comments too seriously?

 

This is how he works.

 

He's stubborn and childish with shit like this.

Not to serious at the MOMENT. How is anything he's said childish and stubborn? What you on about?

[TalkSilly]

Last summer was different to this one though and last year I kind of agreed to what was happening, if we could get CL football with the squad he had to save the money to get his top targets this year then it made sense, Klopp was relying on his world class coaching and managing of a football to team to get us there and he did. Now we're there we should be spending the money on the right players, I can't see how there's only one centre back in the world that would considerably improve us and only one centre midfielder, the club briefed the media that there was £200m to spend and we still have a few players who are going to be offloaded so there's no excuse.

 

 

And it's not as if there aren't other positions that couldn't be improved upon either. I'd hoped we would just do what Spurs have done these last few years: add 2 or 3 decent, effective players every summer and eventually find ourselves in the strong position they are now. But we definitely need one or two more first-team ready players in before the end of the month for that progress to be maintained.

[Barrington Womble]

 

 

You know what we do have a decent squad....BUT it is desperately short of at least a centre half and a central midfielder to go straight into the first eleven.

 

Get them and we might be in business.

 

Sadly we almost certainly won't and not doing so will ultimately cost us a title challenge and probably top 4.

 

The question why we haven't added in those areas will be asked loudly as the season progresses.

I think our squad is big, if you count all kinds of shit players, permacrocks and kids. It was obvious to everyone, even klopp mentioned it himself at the end of the season, that our issue last season was when the injuries came, the drop off from the first XI was too great. We've bought salah to resolve that problem. Lost a regular playing squad player in lucas and basically replaced him with robertson, who it would appear is shitter than moreno. I think our squad is one of the worst in the league and it's why we weren't even capable of competing in the fa cup in a season with no European football.

 

Klopp is supposed to make positive of every situation, why is everyone getting their knickers in a twist about this specific quote?

Because it would suggest, no matter how positive he's trying to be, the message is what you see I'd what you get - we go into next season plus salah and minus Lucas. We've even managed to buy a full back who would be behind Moreno, who klopp was petrified to put on the pitch last year.

[Jay86]

And it's not as if there aren't other positions that couldn't be improved upon either. I'd hoped we would just do what Spurs have done these last few years: add 2 or 3 decent, effective players every summer and eventually find ourselves in the strong position they are now. But we definitely need one or two more first-team ready players in before the end of the month for that progress to be maintained.

I know, I said on the Coutinho thread that if we're holding out for Keita till next year and not bothering with a midfielder this year, spend that money on Jan Oblak now, we're going to buy a keeper eventually so why not do it now?

[Iceman]

I honestly thought that this club would sweep out the dead wood in this transfer window, players who have shown time and again that they can't be relied upon to perform at the highest level on a consistent basis.

 

I had expectations that we would make the most of our 4th place finish and use it as a springboard to attract a class of player who would take us to the next level whilst also bulking out a very thin squad.

 

I expected the hierarchy of the club to have identified a list of targets prior to the window opening and then do everything in their power to land those players with minimum fuss. But if that for some reason wasn't achievable, have a list of alternatives lined up.

 

I had hoped that a substantial amount of investment would be made in light of the massive amount of TV money sloshing through the accounts added to the lack of investment from previous windows.

 

I'm now resigned to another season of Klopp being expected to work miracles with a squad that is actually thinner than last season, with more travelling, more games and a greater risk of being decimated by injuries.

 

The lack of forethought and planning for the season ahead has me very worried, No. staggered that we would once again be so absolutely negligent when it comes to putting this great club back on track to being a genuine title contender when this is the perfect opportunity to attract top level players who would take us in that direction.

 

It's absolutely baffling the lack of ambition to take us to that next level. But we've seen it before and we know all too well how this movie ends. We get to May hoping anyone but the Mancs lift the title because our season blew up in Dec/Jan.

 

Rinse and repeat.

 

Nailed it. 

[Iceman]

How much higher does the apex of cuntery have to go before there is some change in this algorithm of failure? Please just go now Henry you boring, boring man. Take the Coutinho money and fuck off. 

[Guest Alex_K]

Wenger = Klopp comparsions are inane. Wenger did not spend money for years because his club were financing a £400 million stadium with TV/sponsorship income a fraction of what it is now. Once that was done, surprise, the shackles came off 'cautious' Wenger. Lacazette, Xhaka, Oezil, Sanchez -- £150 million + wages just on those 4 in recent years. Its unfortunate for Arsenal that their ability to spend has coincided with Wenger's expiriy as a decent manager.

 

Like Arsenal, and Tottenham now, we're not spending because the money is not there. Simple as that. But Arsenal got a £400 million new stadium out of the deal; Tottenham are building an £800 million one. We got a knock off, £60 million extension to one stand of the ground with restricted views behind a pillar for a number of seats. Its absolutely outrageous. Where has the money gone??

[Red74]

If we can't get VVD & Keita over the line then maybe we should go back in for those players we couldn't get last January whose clubs didn't want to sell at that time. Surely they must be available 7 months later.

 

If Solanke & Robertson where those players, then I apologise in advance to Klopp, FSG, The committee, The Anfield Wrap, SOS, etc etc

[Section_31]

Klopp is great, he's the only good thing going for the club, I just don't understand why we aren't addressing our weaknesses again.

 

It's not even about money or the fame or pedigree of the player, we've needed a transfer window for years that was like Houiller or Rafa's first, with a spine of five or six players. I don't care if none of them cost more than ten million quid, surely that's better than just splashing out on one big money attacker?

[TheHowieLama]

I remember when Konoplyanka was quality.

[Red House]

Actually, watching the actual press conference, these quotes do not seem quite as bad as they initially looked. More of a confidence boosting exercise for the fringe players. My hopes that we will be getting VVD, Verratti, Mbappe and Pele are fully rekindled.

[ngogswilly]

I'm not expecting much from this window now at this point. But if we don't sign a centre half somebody involved in our abject failures should be publicly flogged

[Red74]

Klopp is great, he's the only good thing going for the club, I just don't understand why we aren't addressing our weaknesses again.

It's not even about money or the fame or pedigree of the player, we've needed a transfer window for years that was like Houiller or Rafa's first, with a spine of five or six players. I don't care if none of them cost more than ten million quid, surely that's better than just splashing out on one big money attacker?

But what if Klopp is the main problem here. He's gone on record numerous times saying he has the final say on all transfers and if they're not who he wants then he's not getting drawn into blowing money English style on signings just for the sake of signings (which, to be fair, has been a problem of ours for years).

 

If the monies there and he won't spend it, then he's gonna need brass balls this season relying on our squad of mentally and physically weak players who are never far away from a 3 month lay off after taking a slight knock in training.

[JoeyJones65]

Salah looks to be a great signing. Solanke shows a lot of promise, as for Robertson, well time will tell if he's up to it.

 

Assuming we don't sign anyone else, and reading the runes certainly gives the impression that we won't, the fact that we will have done nothing to resolve the blindingly obvious( to the world and his dog) defensive issues in the side, not to mention the lack of quality outside the starting11 is just plain and outright stupid.

 

Not to mention the problems we have with teams who set up defensive low blocks, and the long standing issue of some of our players being mentally weak and shitting out when the opposition roll up their sleeves and battle.

 

We barely made top 4 last season, and that was without the added burden of European football. Any injury crises like last season could see us in deep shit very quickly.

[LFC 6 Times]

Disgraceful fucking window, negligence by all fucking involved. Genuine insanity to add as little as we have to a squad that's going to have potientally 30% more games.

[mgw100]

And now all the club mouth pieces are starting the "Everythings good campaign"

 

 

The Echo is actually being pretty critical over the last few days on transfer policy. Couple of examples below but it's present in a lot of their articles. Looks to be editorially driven to me.

 

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-coutinho-barcelona-klopp-transfer-13436906

 

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-analysis-jurgen-klopp-oversees-13437794