I'm putting this in here too. What do you reckon Hip-Hoppers. This is actually one of the tracks where they least show their flows but it's still a fucking monumental tune.
Music from some Norgies as I'm sure you all are missing our old friend. You probably know these dudes from the begging track which is a Frankie Valli sample that has been played in clubs over the summer. There music has a little something for everyone.
Hip hop died the day this man died and for all their hard work it isn't 2pac BG or Big L.
...you're joking right? ODB was class but you can't say hip hop died with anybody. Hip Hop isn't dead, it just took a couple of shots is all. The real shit is still out there if you look properly. It just doesn't get as widely recognized now because it seems they prefer Pop sounding, bubblegum, club tunes to real hip hop. So casual hip hop fans don't find the real stuff.
Also today was a great day for new albums, Ice Cubes "Raw Footage" and The Game's "L.A.X" both leaked onto the net. After one listen to both of them I'm confident enough to say they are the albums of 2008 so far with L.A.X just shading it for me. I was disapointed with Games last release so this had to be a classic. It is.
...you're joking right? ODB was class but you can't say hip hop died with anybody. Hip Hop isn't dead, it just took a couple of shots is all. The real shit is still out there if you look properly. It just doesn't get as widely recognized now because it seems they prefer Pop sounding, bubblegum, club tunes to real hip hop. So casual hip hop fans don't find the real stuff.
Also today was a great day for new albums, Ice Cubes "Raw Footage" and The Game's "L.A.X" both leaked onto the net. After one listen to both of them I'm confident enough to say they are the albums of 2008 so far with L.A.X just shading it for me. I was disapointed with Games last release so this had to be a classic. It is.
If anybody wants the links just let me know.
I know what you mean, but for me, hip hop is dying a slow drawn out death, like the heavyweight boxing division, there are no more main players of any note, Snoop is still one of the best out there and must be pushing on 60, Dre is just plain lazy and overhyped now for what he actually delivers, Cube's Ok but not the man he was, can't shock an old lady these days, sell out, Black Rob is lazy, Method man is lazy and washed up although he can still turn it on now and then.
Like Ghostface for instance but it's not enough, he can't hold it down on it's own.
Too many people selling out, every video the same, spinny shiney wheels pulling up next to a ladies arse and the 'crew' piling out.
Jay Z, an overrated, blown up icon that only came to prominence on the back of two dead people who actually had something to say, is making a comeback last I heard, after 'retiring' when we all knew that was just some shit to try and levy another few quid out of people.
The only kind that interest me is marginalised like never before and everyone copies everyone else. I mean Nelly is one of the biggest stars, it's a sad state of affairs to be in Tommy and all the fresh Nike Airs in the world won't make any difference.
I like Dead Prez and stuff like that but find I need to delve into the likes of Sizzla to get anything reasonable and he's hardly a rapper, people like Wu Tang lingering round, selling out. I want raw hip hop and I don't like the way it's been going for the last few years one bit.
Bit of a random rant there but basically is how I feel.
They managed to make hip hop safe, well done, corporate America.
Wow...that is so wrong I don't even know where to start...
I know what you mean, but for me, hip hop is dying a slow drawn out death, like the heavyweight boxing division, there are no more main players of any note
Kanye West sold 990,000 records in his first week of sales, Lil Wayne sold a Milli. Both aren't everyones favourite but the fact is they're the current heavyweights in Hip Hop sales wise. Sales aside, who doesn't know who Jay Z is? Snoop went real gay on his last album but he's still a big player, NaS? Game, T.I., Rev Runs still dropping albums, I could go on but it would bore you. The fact is the same rappers are out there, you just need to look.
Snoop is still one of the best out there and must be pushing on 60
His last album was horrible but he's still a major player. And since when does age come into the ability to make good music?
Dre is just plain lazy and overhyped now for what he actually delivers
Dre? Lazy? No. Look at the albums and tracks he's produced since 2001, his last album not the year. Detox will be amazing.
Cube's Ok but not the man he was, can't shock an old lady these days, sell out
Whoah hold on, shocking old ladys = hip hop? Right. No point even discussing that one. Listen to Cubes new album and tell me what you think. However he doesn't shock any old ladys in it so you won't like it.
Black Rob is lazy, Method man is lazy and washed up although he can still turn it on now and then. Like Ghostface for instance but it's not enough, he can't hold it down on it's own.
Was never a fan of Black Rob. Nah Meth and Red are bringing out Muddy Waters Part 2 later this year. Meths just been working on his acting career, getting money that way. He's been touring for the last year or so as well. Lazy, no. Fishscale and The Big Doe Rehab by Ghostface were both class.
Too many people selling out, every video the same, spinny shiney wheels pulling up next to a ladies arse and the 'crew' piling out.
Not true. Anybody who saw Nas video for "Be A N***** Too" will co-sign that. Its in this thread actually, a few pages back. Work of art. Never played on the tele mind, MTV are only bothered about bling and cars as you said.
Jay Z, an overrated, blown up icon that only came to prominence on the back of two dead people who actually had something to say, is making a comeback last I heard, after 'retiring' when we all knew that was just some shit to try and levy another few quid out of people.
Jay Z's best album was his first, "Reasonable Doubt". Which was out before
those two people died. Its a hip hop classic. Also he made his comeback about 2 years ago with "Kingdom Come" which was amazing in places. He has had another album out since then. Anybody doubting Hovas credentials as a hip hop artist is pretty hip hop illiterate. And as far as the retirement goes, he's a smart business man as he's shown throughout his career.
The only kind that interest me is marginalised like never before and everyone copies everyone else. I mean Nelly is one of the biggest stars, it's a sad state of affairs to be in Tommy and all the fresh Nike Airs in the world won't make any difference.
True. There's a good few "clone" rappers out there. But the point I've been making is look past the top ten videos on MTV and into other albums and keep current with releases because blink and you'll miss it these days.
I like Dead Prez and stuff like that but find I need to delve into the likes of Sizzla to get anything reasonable and he's hardly a rapper, people like Wu Tang lingering round, selling out. I want raw hip hop and I don't like the way it's been going for the last few years one bit.
I don't understand how Wu Tang sold out. There last album wasn't a sell out, it was just shite. They could have had 15 club bangers on it, that would have been selling out. But instead they tried to stay true to themselves, fact is there's too many fallings out in the group to produce a truly masterful album.
They managed to make hip hop safe, well done, corporate America.
Hip Hops safe? Would you prefer if every rapper got shot dead? Anyway its still far from safe, ask Big Proofs parents how safe it is. Ask T.I. how safe it is.
Maybe it's just different to what I knew it to be then. Can't stand Jay Z, like some of his songs but he his first album I think is overrated he was at his worst lyrically. His 2nd album since he hasn't stopped blinging but he's not saying anything at all, just talks trash like Danny Williams.
Also everyone went dead for a while and Jay Z was just there same for Nas, he's good lyrically but not saying much nowadays doing albums with his bird and that caper? Liked his first album though.
I suppose my main problem is that once they become big stars and 'get their bling on' they aren't relevant anymore. The ones that could stay relevant aren't as prominent, depends on what your idea of it all is though.
Maybe Wu RTang haven't sold out but some of their songs have and their videos too.
