Star Trek - The Shit, or Just Shit?

madstock · #1 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:19 PM

After reading the thread regarding the hamsters in the TLW servers running out of food, and in particular the insightful and entirely accurate comment from Mr Skeet that "He used to think Star Trek was great, but then reached the age of 9", my mind turned to Star Trek - the first image to jump into my head was thus:

Now I concede that years ago "Star Trekkin'" was a novelty pop-song extraordinaire, and some of the outfits were utterly stupendous:

However, the wholly obsessive nature of many Trekkers, Trekkies, or whatever they are calling themselves, coupled with "Klingon" (the language that seems to be part-Polish, part-Welsh, but mostly bollocks as opposed to the BS defender) does leave me thinking:

Star Trek
*shakes head*

No doubt this will split the forum in two, and a poll is to follow before someone pipes up "where's the poll?"

philyburkhill · #2 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:31 PM

Great when I was a kid, but TNG has really dated and only the core episodes of DS9 are any good. Rest is shite, aparat from three or four of the movies.

Paul · #3 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:32 PM

If ever a thread needed an option representing ambivalence it's this one.

Nick Leeson · #4 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:38 PM

I actually think it's ok in the sense that if I was round someone's place and they were watching I wouldn't sit there and pick it to death.

The problem I have with it now are the people who watch it rather than the show itself. Someone needs to tell them, and I think I'm that someone that it isn't real life, is never going to be and isn't actually that entertaining anyway.

I hate it when people talk about it and then start telling star trek jokes. It's like being at work when the nerds start telling Microsoft Vs Linux jokes.

PaddyBerger15 · #5 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:40 PM

Fucking rubbish..always has been, always will be.

wiiksie · #6 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:42 PM

Original TV show: kitsch brilliance. Films and Fans: rubbish.

madstock · #7 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by SKEET

It's like being at work when the nerds start telling Microsoft Vs Linux jokes.

I excel at those.

I don't actually have a problem with nerds/geeks, as I would consider myself to fit in those two categories quite nicely, however the whole unhealthiness of the Star Trek pursuit is what I find bewildering.

hamstrung · #8 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:43 PM

As Tom said in the other thread

"Virgins"

Nick Leeson · #9 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by madstock

I excel at those.

I don't actually have a problem with nerds/geeks, as I would consider myself to fit in those two categories quite nicely, however the whole unhealthiness of the Star Trek pursuit is what I find bewildering.

Please refrain whenever we're in the same room. I might be forced to choke you on a copy of 'Linux for Dummies'

philyburkhill · #10 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 08:46 PM

Star Trek has some great episodes, but it died because people no longer wanted the crappy anaomly of the week episodes - when it tried to change it, they just made it a B show and went back to the formula.

Section_31 · #11 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 10:09 PM

It's fuckin ace and people living outside the states don't understand just what a significant show it was.

The first ever space shuttle was called 'Enterprise' in homage to the show (even though it didn't get into space to be fair)

It had the world's first televised interacial kiss, and when Uhura was on about packing it in - Martin Luther King visited her and begged her not to, saying she offered hope to a whole generation that one day black people (let alone women) would be equal.

It also inspired a whole generation of engineers and NASA types to get into the industry.

Some of the stories in TNG and DS9 were ace and overlooked by people who don't give it a chance due to the sneering Jonathan Ross-esque 'it's just shit' factor.

bobster · #12 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 10:37 PM

What really pisses me off is the 24th centuries apparent obsession with fucking Jazz as the musical genre of taste. That Riker's a right cunt for it. It's like pop in the 20th never happened. And what's the obsession with Moby Dick? Written by a bunch of Freudian wankers if you ask me.

RJ Fan club · #13 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 11:04 PM

Not my thing, never will be. Just can't be arsed really.

She Knows It · #14 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by SKEET

Please refrain whenever we're in the same room. I might be forced to choke you on a copy of 'Linux for Dummies'

I think you'll find that's my book. You can't choke my boyfriend on my own book, it's not on.

Star Trek is "just shit", along with Stargate and Stars in the Eyes.

rondeco · #15 (**permalink**) 21st January 2008, 11:29 PM

ds9 is fucking ace. ace.

Section_31 · #16 (**permalink**) 22nd January 2008, 01:22 AM

I like to think I've got decent taste in TV, The Shield, The Wire, Sopranos, Band of Brothers.

And yet a Star Trek: The Next Generation two-parter called 'The Best of Both Worlds' is without doubt the finest 90 minutes of television I've ever seen - FACT.

The Best of Both Worlds (Star Trek: The Next Generation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia