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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by AdamS
Which muslims would say is everywhere no?
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Depends if you ask the vast Majority of Muslims or a few select nut cases. The thing is the land they occupy does actually belong to Palestinians who helped then out (with the force of UK) after the Holocaust.
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Rashid
In the past 20 years we have had many terrorists, in the 1040's it was Jews killing many English servicemen in the middle east as "terrorists". To this day the Jews celebrate these "martyrs".
We have had IRA, ETA, Hindu's in India, groups in Japan - depends who is beign 'wronged' at the time I suppose.
So where are these terrorists aws? In Iraq?
I know about 7/7 and 9/11 but how many in England have been convicted of Terrorism? Or could it be 0.00001% of a 2 billion global population you are talking about?
The way to go is simple. The Rashid solution...
1. Israel to get out of land not belonging to them.
2. Muslims to accept that the Jews have to exist somewhere and let Israel be.
3. UK and USA to fuck off out of Arab lands.
4. UK Foreign Policy to be not focussed on Oil and Money
5. Muslim's who do not like the UK way of life, or have grievances with this country to relocate to somewhere where the Islamic religion is fully adhered to. Try Saudi Arabia...
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I very carefully inserted the word "currently" into my post. You must have missed it.
Don't really have any problem with the Rashid solution.Except I'd need further clarification of point 4 because every country's foreign policy is (deep down)based on money and resources.
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Rashid
Depends if you ask the vast Majority of Muslims or a few select nut cases. The thing is the land they occupy does actually belong to Palestinians who helped then out (with the force of UK) after the Holocaust.
Most Muslims I know will accept 1967 borders - Jews won't for a number of reasons.
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Cheers.
I have not really ever bothered to become fully aquainted with the history of that particular conflict.
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Monkeywool
Talk facts not bollocks mate
The media have free reign to ridicule everyone, Christians are ridiculed all the time in cartoons - look at family guy for example. jews are ridiculed as well, the only faith that isnt ridiculed is Islam because of the fact that if you do then some matey somewhere will get too overly sensitive and go off on one.
As far as the French headscarves thing. Well it wasn't at all singling out Muslim headscarves you ill informed mug. It was banning ALL religious paraphinalia from schools, including Crucifix skullcaps and all the other tokens that religious types wear. It was seperating religion from state completely, it just so happens that a muslim views that as an attack on their faith when it clearly isn't.
The simple fact is, Muslims see the world as "theirs" and they are "God's chosen people" or whatever, so they are going to be the most intolerant bunch of gamps you can come across and I have some great Muslim friends.
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Did you know that those very same ways is written into the Jewish Faith? FACT.
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Rashid
Did you know that those very same ways is written into the Jewish Faith? FACT.
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Yeah but what do Muslims care, apparently the Torah is bollocks anyway?
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by aws
I very carefully inserted the word "currently" into my post. You must have missed it.
Don't really have any problem with the Rashid solution.Except I'd need further clarification of point 4 because every country's foreign policy is (deep down)based on money and resources.
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Good point about point 4 but there has to be a limit to greed. Iraq was greed, lies and total fabrication used to attack major country. It has also backfired... Iran will Iraq sooner or later like they have always wanted creating a haven for the anti west. |
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Monkeywool
Yeah but what do Muslims care, apparently the Torah is bollocks anyway?
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Muslim's 100% believe in the Torah and the Bible. Muslims also believe "Jesus will be the Savior". |
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Re: Fucking muslims
Just pondered this, a friend of mine was asked to take her cap off when going into Sainsburys as it covered her face from the security cameras, or she was offered the option of wearing it backwards, this was in case she was planning on robbing the place. It's also the same with Off-Licences. So my point is are muslim women wearing burqas banned from supermarkets?? Rascism or fair?
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Rashid
Muslim's 100% believe in the Torah and the Bible. Muslims also believe "Jesus will be the Savior".
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Not what I was told by a Muslim scholar, apparently the Torah and the Bible were rejected because they weren't ratified properly and it isn't God's true word, and the only person you should listen to is God through Muhammad.
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by ScouseJim
Just pondered this, a friend of mine was asked to take her cap off when going into Sainsburys as it covered her face from the security cameras, or she was offered the option of wearing it backwards, this was in case she was planning on robbing the place. It's also the same with Off-Licences. So my point is are muslim women wearing burqas banned from supermarkets?? Rascism or fair?
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Exactly - It is a difficult thing. Although Muslim women are obliged to show their face in the cases of "security". |
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Rashid
The fucking place is STILL occupied 40 years later for fucks sake. It is a CURRENT event not something that happened and finished 40 years ago. Jesus Christ!
However, there is no justification for killing innocent people be it Muslim or AN Other. What justification did we have for killing 100,000 innocent in Iraq? Oil? Weapons of Mass Destruction? I am still trying to work that one out.
Both sides (Government Terrorists and Islamic Terrorists) are acting terrible and its innocents on both sides that suffer.
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I do know it's still occupied but how does that justify British Muslims blowing people up? Both you and I know it doesn't.
My point is that sections of the Muslim community seem to see everything as one seamless thread and everything that goes wrong for Muslims anywhere in the world is connected together as if it's part of a Christian/Jewish/Hindu Holy War on thir faith.
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Monkeywool
Not what I was told by a Muslim scholar, apparently the Torah and the Bible were rejected because they weren't ratified properly and it isn't God's true word, and the only person you should listen to is God through Muhammad.
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That my friend is absolute bollocks. The Koran is the last word from God, not the only word. The Torah and the Old Testament Bible is 100% correct - although some of the things in the Koran supercedes what was said previously e.g. Do not drink Alcohol, pray 5 times a day etc. |
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by ScouseJim
Just pondered this, a friend of mine was asked to take her cap off when going into Sainsburys as it covered her face from the security cameras, or she was offered the option of wearing it backwards, this was in case she was planning on robbing the place. It's also the same with Off-Licences. So my point is are muslim women wearing burqas banned from supermarkets?? Rascism or fair?
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It's racism to suggest that they would need to take it off as far as I am aware.
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by Rashid
Do not drink Alcohol, pray 5 times a day etc.
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Allah was dyslexic, what he meant was Do not pray, drink alcohol 5 times a day.
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Re: Fucking muslims
Originally Posted by aws
I do know it's still occupied but how does that justify British Muslims blowing people up? Both you and I know it doesn't.
My point is that sections of the Muslim community seem to see everything as one seamless thread and everything that goes wrong for Muslims anywhere in the world is connected together as if it's part of a Christian/Jewish/Hindu Holy War on thir faith.
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Hindu's could never have a war on Islam... no chance.
Jews only attack their weak neighbours with the backing of UK/USA.
Christians have no problem with Islam - although some Neo-Cons do.
The problem with Muslims is like a chip on the shoulder but it is a culmination of events, - Palestine, Chechnya, Kashmir, Islamphobia, Victimisation, Racism, Iraq, etc etc.... hatred is breading hatred and the foreign policy and lying clowns like Blair don't help. |
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