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S.O.S - "BELONG" LFC Membership Scheme and Tickets for Corporates

“Belong". The motto for Liverpool Football Club's new Membership Scheme. Well what if you already 'Belong'? Do you have to cough up £29 or £20, to continue to belong? Or can you still belong, but anyone new who wants to belong, has to pay for the privilege?

The whole idea of someone belonging to a club is fair and right. But to pay for it, where is the fairness in that? We all belong to Liverpool Football Club. From the minute you were born and had your first picture taken with a Liverpool scarf. Or from when your Dad, Mum, Aunty, Uncle, Cousin, started taking you to the match or when you watched MOTD and realised there was only one club for you. The point is, you didn't start belonging, when you paid YOUR club, a certain amount of money, a membership fee, each year. So why is Liverpool Football Club, a religion to most fans, now charging for you to 'Belong'?

The "benefits" of this new scheme mean improved access to tickets, in the form of a Ticket Exchange. What about existing fan card holders? Do we have improved access to tickets, such as Window Sales, an Improved Internet service for buying tickets online, or an improved telephone system for buying tickets? How much access do fans get to tickets via this exchange for their fee? Will those subscribing to the new Membership Scheme receive any priority over existing fan card holders? How will the PTS scheme be affected? Will they still have the same number of tickets available to them?

For your £29 membership fee, you can join the Season Ticket Waiting List. A list that up until this point was free to join. Can people still join the waiting list for free, or do you have to pay to join it? If so what about all those fans presently on the waiting list, what happens to them?

This Membership, is replacing fan cards. You can no longer buy a £3.50 fan card. So any new fans that previously weren't able to go to the match and haven't got a fan card have to pay £29 a season if they want to realistically even consider going to a game, young kids wanting to start going to games, have got to pay £20 a season. This is just for the CHANCE of a ticket, to be able to record loyalty. Existing fan card holders – well no one seems to be willing to say what exactly will happen to them. What we do know is that an S.O.S Committee Member contacted the Ticket Office about this proposed scheme a few weeks ago. We were told that fan cards would be ok for the 2008/09 season, but not for the 2009/10 season. So what happens to fan card holders then? A card that was described as being the only card you will ever need, is it now going to be rendered useless? They said so. It means everyone has to cough up to stand a chance of getting a ticket. Have they decided sensibly against this? Have they any intention of informing us?

The Club’s very own charter says this about fancards:

“The Fan Card is the only card that you will need with Liverpool Football Club”

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See the section on fan cards. It tells you this. So why the change?

Did the club consult with supporters? If it has – and in the charter it claims to on a regular basis – then can it release the minutes of those discussions? Do you know of anyone who has taken part in them on this issue? If it hasn’t consulted with supporters, well, why not? We’re the ones who go through the ticketing rigmarole week in, week out. We’re the ones frustrated by the ticket office, by losing tickets to touts. Is it in any way arduous to actually remember simple values of customer service or to carry out surveys? The club calls upon the twelfth man when it requires it and then casts him aside from its thoughts other than as a minor irritant to be bled dry at all other times.

What about Season Ticket Holders? They currently pay a minimum of £650 per season. Do they get the same benefits of this new membership? Will the receive the discounts and the special offers?

There are so many questions that the club need to answer. So many questions that we, as fans, need answers to. We will be asking the club for these answers, a letter has been sent to Rick Parry, and to the Ticket Office Manager, asking for answers to all these questions.

The only answer we have for definite is cost. £29 for adults, £20 for children. Per season. So a family of 4 must pay £98. Per Season. Just to give themselves a chance of getting a ticket in a season. A young supporter, living in the shadows of Anfield, who might want to attend just one game, as they can't afford it regularly, now has to pay £20, just for the 'privilege' of applying for a ticket. This is even before fans have to consider the rises in ticket prices, of £3 per ticket, per game.

From a one off payment of £3.50 to £29 per season. With an estimated
250,000 people holding fan cards, that is £7,250,000 extra revenue per season.
The cynic in us, might wonder exactly where that money will be going.

This isn't like Barcelona, where they have members, who pay their money and have a say. This is pay your money, maybe get a ticket to take your seat and be happy with it.

We have also learnt today, that the Development Association, who provide tickets to fans (which they pay for) who sell pools on behalf of the club (Liverpoolfc.tv: Development Association ), are to lose their allocation of tickets. Supporters Clubs, many of whom have fans who come every week from all over the country, are to have their ticket allocations cut in half. Where will these tickets go? To Corporates. So less tickets for fans who go every week, everywhere. More tickets for those who swell the clubs coffers, and want to turn up for a “jolly good afternoon of sport”.

So we will ask the questions. We will get the answers. And we’ll help the club do what it seems to find so hard – tell supporters what is going on. But in the meantime, why don’t you ask the club. Or if the club ignore us, let’s ask the Liverpool Echo to ask questions on our behalf. Email Tony Barrett - tony.barrett@liverpoolecho.co.uk. Lets put pressure on them to ask questions to those who make these decisions, and lets pressure the club in to answering OUR questions.

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Re: S.O.S - "BELONG" LFC Membership Scheme and Tickets for Corporates

See some smart arse has left some "clever" tags

Wonder if he'd have the courage to own up?

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Re: S.O.S - "BELONG" LFC Membership Scheme and Tickets for Corporates

I'd love to know who's idea it was. Parry will be left having to face the anger of the fans, but I very much doubt he has anything to do with it. Be interesting to find out though.
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I'd love to know who's idea it was. Parry will be left having to face the anger of the fans, but I very much doubt he has anything to do with it. Be interesting to find out though.
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Well that was my suspicion, but I didn't want to go throwing accusations around without knowing for sure. Do we know it's him, and if so then how can he be exposed?
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Well that was my suspicion, but I didn't want to go throwing accusations around without knowing for sure. Do we know it's him, and if so then how can he be exposed?
It is him

The problem is that the only people who could blow him up are Moores and Parry
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Re: S.O.S - "BELONG" LFC Membership Scheme and Tickets for Corporates

Thanks DM. Is Iain Ayre the corprate douche that got brought in to maximise our marketing potential? I could have thought up this scheme and rolled it out better than this cunt if so.
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Cracking statement and action plan from SOS. Im definately going to sign up to become a member of the union when i get a few quid spare.
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Thanks DM. Is Iain Ayre the corprate douche that got brought in to maximise our marketing potential? I could have thought up this scheme and rolled it out better than this cunt if so.
That's him. He was at Huddersfield a few years ago and their fans absolutely fucking hate him.
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I've finally realised that my dream of having season tickets for the whole family will never be anything more than just that - a dream. There's just no way in the world we could afford it. Sad, really.
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I got an email back from the club saying that people already on the list will retain their place and won't have to pay to be on the list.

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The new membership will not affect the season ticket waiting list as it is now. All members that are on the season ticket waiting list will stay on at the same position.

If you have any further enquiries please do not hesitate to contact us.
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The problem is that the only people who could blow him up are Moores and Parry
I can understand Parry not wanting to say anything but whats stopping Moores, a lifelong Liverpool fan who wouldnt do anything to hurt the club and is said to have shed a little tear in his champagne at the recent events at Liverpool.
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Good on S.O.S to be asking these questions and trying to make the club give them answers, once again the fans aren't told the whole story of whats happening.
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Re: S.O.S - "BELONG" LFC Membership Scheme and Tickets for Corporates

"All members that are on the season ticket waiting list will stay on at the same position."

So you need to be a member though? If you are on the list, you need to be a member to keep that position?
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I think all the top clubs have similar schemes and pricing for theirs. No wonder we're lagging in terms of revenue and scraping round trying to sign players.
the tv money has never been higher, we shouldnt need to be scraping round for players but there is the small matter of 20-30m of interest to pay and the club will need to screw every last penny out of the fans

it's sad but expect more of this, ever higher ticket prices and further screwing 'customers'
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"All members that are on the season ticket waiting list will stay on at the same position."

So you need to be a member though? If you are on the list, you need to be a member to keep that position?
Aye, appears that I didn't take a proper look at it. The list will be massively reduced if that's the case.
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If the list even exists in the first place. I reckon it's all bollocks anyway, they don't have an organised list with people in a queue. This is ideal for them as it means they end that pretence and just start a new list.
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That was my first thought too. If he is, it won't be long before he gives himself away.
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Re: S.O.S - "BELONG" LFC Membership Scheme and Tickets for Corporates

I don't like the sound of it, and I don't think its right. But the optimist in me hopes it stops touts, makes the whole system more fair and improves the service.
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Would you believe I was drinking with Ian ayre in athens the night before the champs league final and I didn't know who he was. He was a cunt that night. Had a real 'I'm a better fan than you' attitude..
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There will be an announcement soon regarding Thomas Cook that will have fans up in arms.

Something along the way of Pay through the nose with Thomas Cook to europe and your match ticket is guarenteed, no matter what game you want, or have or have not been to.
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