Martin Oneill

[SpeedyG]

Originally Posted by Paul14

Can you expand on that or are you just trying to be controversial?

I wondered that too especially given the revelation that Rafa had spoke to O'Neill in private a month ago. For MON to then come out with I know nothing just makes him look like a tit.

[RoboRiise]

Originally Posted by rebel23

all this crap seems unseemly and is best done in the summer when the window opens, not when they're fighting for 5th, I'm not defending him but I can see why O'Neill is going off on one

Yes, so can I. It's because his captain's had his head turned by the thought of a move to a club with a phenomenal pedigree and he's bricking it at the thought of the fan backlash.

All of which is fair enough but when he starts saying that "Rafa doesn't respect anything" he can fuck right off for me. It's that stupid comment about the £2m valuation that really got me, that's deep in Father Dougal territory.

"I don't want this in the press" says O'Neill. To a journalist. Yeah whatever.

Originally Posted by Red Nick

Any of you who think Rafa is in the right in the way he´s acted are completely off your trolley.

In view of your oft-noted expertise on the subject of insanity Nick, I'll take that as a compliment ;-) O'Neill's comments are farcical whichever way you dress it up.

[Moo]

I usually like O'Neill but he is being a cheeky bastard.

He, not Rafa, was the first one to start this public discussion/argument.
Rafa said nothing about it until O'Neill started acting the victim.

Yes, the bid was first made known [publically] in a local newspaper but I've got news for you Martin, that's football. And what's that necessarily got to do with Rafa? As RoboRiise queried, what has Rafa to gain from the bid being made public?

Perhaps Rafa could have chosed not to respond to O'Neill's virtually unprovoked attack, but I don't blame him for defending himself - I am glad he has.

[Moo]

And all those saying the timing of the bid was inappropriate, do you honestly think that we are the only club and Barry is the only player to have been involved in transfer talks these last few weeks?

Give me a break.

[SpeedyG]

Originally Posted by Moo

I usually like O'Neill but he is being a cheeky bastard.

He, not Rafa, was the first one to start this public discussion/argument.
Rafa said nothing about it until O'Neill started acting the victim.

Yes, the bid was first made known in a local newspaper but I've got news for you Martin, that's football. And what's that necessarily got to do with Rafa? As RoboRiise queried, what has Rafa to gain from the bid being made public?

Perhaps Rafa could have chosed not to respond to O'Neill's virtually unprovoked attack, but I don't blame him for defending himself - I am glad he has.

But even that isn't true, Rafa has spoken privately to MON long before that "20 days ago", which is long before it turned up in the echo.

[ratcatcher]

Originally Posted by dave u

Desailly upset me when he played for Chelsea, he was a complete cunt. I fucking hated him.

Dave, I love your wicked comments. They cut to the quick. Keep 'em coming!

[RoboRiise]

Originally Posted by dave u

Just a point on O'Neill sitting on the bench for the second half of that game. It wasn't to take over and undermine the reserve manager, it was because of an incident in the directors box that pissed him off to the point where he didn't want to sit in there anymore, so he went down to the bench.

I'm not sure on the details, but I heard that he basically felt Liverpool officials were trying to make him look a cunt, so he left the directors box.

Whether he had good reason for that or not I don't know, but he wasn't going down to the bench to manage the reserve side.

No wonder he was pissed off - he clearly doesn't need our help with that.



As for O'Neill trying to keep his side focussed on the battle for fifth with all this attention on his captain's future, maybe he should give Rafa a call back and ask how he managed to win the Champion's League in 2005...

[ATXRED]

This would be nothing but speculation, paper talk, or the idle thoughts of bored journalist, but what has O'Neill done? He's gone out and given the rumor, which is what it is no matter how credible the source , the credibility of truth. He wants this story out there. As far as I'm aware, there were no quotes from our club in any publication suggesting we had interest before O'Neill came out with his first tantrum.

[Red Nick]

Originally Posted by Paul14

Can you expand on that or are you just trying to be controversial?

I agree with Dave U 100%

[manwiththestick]

Martin O'neill is a little floppy cock.
With glasses on.

[RoboRiise]

I'm assuming from Dave's comments in the other thread (which I've only just seen) that the club did leak this to the local press. I'm curious about two things here; was it Rafa himself or other elements and if it was Rafa, why?

I'm sure it was going in the paper regardless of whether the club fronted the story though.

[bossy]

Stuff is always leaked to the press. MON is being a disengenius little turd here. Just say 'No, we are not going to sell' and be done with it. All Rafa has done has said he wants to buy a player. Fucking whinging pretend sincere twat.

[StevieH]

'He said maybe his English wasn't the best. I don't know about my accent but my English is pretty clear. After getting an A' Level studying Thomas Hardy I know I am usually grammatically correct.'

Angry Villa boss Martin O'Neill fires off at Liverpool counterpart Rafa Benitez over Barry transfer saga | the Daily Mail

[George Costanza]

I like O'Neill, i've a lot of time for him. I don't really see what he's doing wrong. He's trying to the best fro his club. Whether that be disrupt the proposed transfer so we give up and move on or get the best price possible for his captain.

[George Costanza]

Originally Posted by Paul14

Apart from act like a complete cunt?

In your opinion. I think he's every right to be pissed off.

[RoboRiise]

Originally Posted by StevieH

'He said maybe his English wasn't the best. I don't know about my accent but my English is pretty clear. After getting an A' Level studying Thomas Hardy I know I am usually grammatically correct.'

Angry Villa boss Martin O'Neill fires off at Liverpool counterpart Rafa Benitez over Barry transfer saga | the Daily Mail

Oh fuck me! O'Neill in "Trots out pseudo-intellectual credentials" shocker.

I realise that spending two years of your life studying the works of Thomas Hardy is bound to inflict some kind of emotional damage but don't go waving that in my face and asking for sympathy Martin.

[theRedHorse]

I've got 3 A levels.
Does that mean I get to take the piss out of a foreigners English aswell?

[George Costanza]

Originally Posted by Paul14

Of course, his best player wants to move to one of the biggest clubs in the word, I'd be seething, but I doubt I'd act in such a cuntish way.

Just the way it goes. Feel free to go and support Villa if you don't like big clubs poaching the best players from smaller clubs.

You're a bit of a twat aren't you.

Childish comments just because I have some form of apathy for a manager who is more than likely going to have his best player 'poached' from him.

[Tom R]

Martin O'Neill is a fucking whinging, crying little bitch.

Get over it, Martin, you fucking massive fairy fucker.

[George Costanza]

Originally Posted by Paul14

Pity you have more apathy for any manager but ours...

given the past 12 months he's had to endure that is quite frankly a laughable comment.

Don't know about you but I still remember how shit it felt when Gerrard was on the verge of leaving in the summers of 04 and 05.

I personnlly would welcome the signing of Barry buti 'm not completely blind and cold hearted to realise what a kick in the teeth it would be for O'Neill and Villa fans. At the end of the day if it improves us then great, ideally the deal could have been handles better (by both sides) but thats is unfortunately the nature of modern day football business.

[shanks59]

Originally Posted by George Costanza

In your opinion. I think he's every right to be pissed off.

So you agree with his personal attack on Rafa