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Thats kinda my point, are we only upset by him because he is doin what maybe we should do sometimes and get more than we should for a player by not being so nice about it?
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I like O'Neill. His problem is that every club he has been at sells their best players.
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My dad went to uni with O'Neill.

So there you go.
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Desailly upset me when he played for Chelsea, he was a complete cunt. I fucking hated him.
Good point. Ron Atkinson had a point actually. Shame it was so racist.
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Nothing to do with you being from Northen Ireland. Oh no.

There are ways and means of squeezing clubs for more money for your best player without acting like a spoilt brat and trying to cause a public spat, calling into question our club and managers integrity, the four eyed, Woody Allen wannabe.
Nothing to do with that at all.
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Average manager.
Love how he called the offer a mish mash of no name players or something like that. One of them has been between the sticks for you for most of the season you arsehole!
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Desailly upset me when he played for Chelsea, he was a complete cunt. I fucking hated him.
I thought he was a class player and because Chelsea were never a real threat back then I could enjoy watching him play. Didnt Roy Evans nearly sign him before he went to Chelsea?
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I like O'Neill. His problem is that every club he has been at sells their best players.

I rate him. He is, afterall, only protecting his team. Nothing wrong there. He has not slagged us off for no reason.

We would feel the same if Chelsea came in for our best players.
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Nah Carson's a bit shit, we'd be lucky to get a packet of Rolo's for him.
Carson is quality, are you forgetting he played a major role in us not having to put up with sickening England media hype this summer? That alone should put him in the £10m-15m bracket.
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O'Neill does my head in and I've never liked the Cunt. He is constantly moaning and telling everyone how much the World is against him. He is the exact same as Evertons supporters.
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That just sums up every manager!
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O'Neill has chatted shite for years.

He did on the BBC, he did when he was Leicester manager and now he's doing it again at Villa.

He's trying to get all the smaller clubs and footballing neutrals on his side, making the big clubs look like the bad guys taking away their best talent. Benitez has hardly acted wrong in this case. I doubt he leaked the story to the press, he spoke to O'Neill personally and O'Neill is just trying to look like he's making a real effort to keep his captain.

Personally I think he's just looking like a cunt.
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Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has launched a scathing attack against Liverpool counterpart Rafael Benitez for stating "prolonged discussions" had taken place between the pair over the possible move of skipper Gareth Barry to the Reds.

O'Neill insists the only contact regarding England midfielder Barry had been two phone calls made to him by Benitez - the first three weeks ago and the second last Friday.

And O'Neill claimed the second of those by Benitez was "to cover his own backside" after Liverpool's £10million cash-plus-players bid for Barry was leaked to the local Merseyside media.

The former Celtic boss described Benitez's behaviour as "disingenuous" and questioned whether the Spaniard was "trying to make a fool out of us all" over his campaign to try and sign Barry.

O'Neill said: "I have never denied we had a conversation - but we have not had prolonged discussions. Benitez is quoted as saying 'he knew my idea and I knew his.' What idea did I have? I didn't have an idea apart from saying 'Gareth Barry is not for sale.' (1)

"He spoke to me about Barry, about being interested. I told him I would obviously put this to my owner (Randy Lerner) who I think deserves to be told about any of these things.

"I said to him I would assume Randy's viewpoint would be concurring with my own - and that was the case.

"The next time I spoke to Benitez was last Friday morning. He called me, to ask had I seen the offer for Barry which had come to us on the Thursday.
"I told him I had seen it. Again our viewpoint wasn't going to change and that it was only after the phone went down that I realised the story had broken already in the Liverpool media.

"Rafa was only on the phone to me to cover his own backside. That is all. I phoned him back immediately to say I was amazed to find out this should appear in his local paper. (2)

"That is the last time I spoke to him. This 'prolonged conversation' over a period of three weeks is not prolonged at all. It is simply untrue and it is disingenuous of him to say we have had prolonged discussions. (3)

"We have not and he knows that. He knows that clearly. It is not true."

O'Neill added: "Is Benitez playing you for a fool? Rafa said something about 'we will wait until the end of the season because he respects our viewpoint.' Rafa doesn't respect anything. That would be my view. (4)

"In the last two years we have tried to conduct our business in a proper fashion and we have succeeded in doing that and I find myself here going down the Liverpool way of conducting business, the modern Liverpool way of conducting business through the press. (5)

"I felt today I had to answer him because it kind of gets out of control.
"Villa fans are very anxious for us to try and keep Barry and they would be more than disappointed to find out we have been in 'prolonged discussion' with Liverpool. That is not true.

"Any phone calls between us have come from Liverpool. The way Benitez is portraying it is as if I am in agreement. It is not true."

O'Neill is also baffled at how Benitez can put a £15million price tag on Peter Crouch and then makes such a meagre offer for Barry when he is playing more regularly for England than the former Villa striker.

He said: "I am not here to promote a price for Barry. It is not on the agenda but it is interesting to note that Benitez can put a price on a player (Crouch) who has got one year left of his contract because he plays for England.

"I think he must have forgotten that Barry is playing more regularly for England than that player and yet he can come up and talk about a £10million offer which includes some money and some unnamed players which would make Gareth worth about £2 million. (7)

"It does make a laughing stock of what he was saying beforehand. Maybe he is trying to make a fool of us all. It is incredible. I couldn't have been more angry this morning."

O'Neill also reiterated his desire to try and break into the top four and challenge the likes of Liverpool.

He said: "I would say at this minute Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and then Liverpool are very strong - and so they should be. They've spent enough.

"At the end of it all, that is where we are trying to get to. That is our aim. Why shouldn't we have that aim because it is a half decent football club here?"(8 )

1) "I didn't have an idea apart from saying 'Gareth Barry is not for sale." And the prick calls Rafa disingenuous... "My idea", "Your idea" etc are terms that Rafa uses often to mean his thoughts, or the thoughts of another person. English is his second language Martin, you ass.

2) Rafa Benitez is not a journalist, he manages a football club. Like I said last week, Rafa has only one thing to "gain" by this being in the press and that's the possibility of being gazumped on the deal, or of it being more expensive. Hmmm, who would be more likely to benefit from that, Rafa or O'Neill? Also, Barry's agent perhaps?

3) If I talk to someone and then talk to them again about the same thing three weeks later, that's a discussion. Most of the discussions I get involved in last somewhat less than three weeks, so you could call it prolonged. It's certainly not been finalised yet, not is it close to being. Semantics Martin.

4) "Rafa doesn't respect anything. That would be my view." You are a fucking shortarse bullshitting little cunt Martin. That would be my view.

5) Again, this new Liverpool Way is Rafa's fault is it Martin? Fuck off.

6) How the hell do you get Rafa as saying that he and O'Neill are in agreement from Rafa's comments?

7) This is beneath contempt. How can a cash plus player deal worth an overall £10m suggest Barry is worth £2m? If the total value of the deal is £10m isn't he worth £10m Martin? Or have I misinterpreted that blindingly obvious statement?

8 ) Yes Martin. Villa are a half decent club. I couldn't have put it better myself. Remind me, what are Liverpool FC again?
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1) "I didn't have an idea apart from saying 'Gareth Barry is not for sale." And the prick calls Rafa disingenuous... "My idea", "Your idea" etc are terms that Rafa uses often to mean his thoughts, or the thoughts of another person. English is his second language Martin, you ass.

2) Rafa Benitez is not a journalist, he manages a football club. Like I said last week, Rafa has only one thing to "gain" by this being in the press and that's the possibility of being gazumped on the deal, or of it being more expensive. Hmmm, who would be more likely to benefit from that, Rafa or O'Neill? Also, Barry's agent perhaps?

3) If I talk to someone and then talk to them again about the same thing three weeks later, that's a discussion. Most of the discussions I get involved in last somewhat less than three weeks, so you could call it prolonged. It's certainly not been finalised yet, not is it close to being. Semantics Martin.

4) "Rafa doesn't respect anything. That would be my view." You are a fucking shortarse bullshitting little cunt Martin. That would be my view.
5) Again, this new Liverpool Way is Rafa's fault is it Martin? Fuck off.

6) How the hell do you get Rafa as saying that he and O'Neill are in agreement from Rafa's comments?

7) This is beneath contempt. How can a cash plus player deal worth an overall £10m suggest Barry is worth £2m? If the total value of the deal is £10m isn't he worth £10m Martin? Or have I misinterpreted that blindingly obvious statement?

8 ) Yes Martin. Villa are a half decent club. I couldn't have put it better myself. Remind me, what are Liverpool FC again?


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we should have waited until the end of the season for all this to kick off, O'Neill is correct here imo.
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