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View Poll Results: Who will reach number 19 first?
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Old 15th April 2008, 12:01 PM
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Who will reach number 19 first?

Who will reach number 19 first?

Some of you might not care but I fucking do. We will never be back on our perch until we get to league title.
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

Utd.

We will however reach 21 before them.
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

I think that too mate, I they will get there first. I am still not convinved Rafa has sussed the league but the signs look good lately.
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

At the moment I don't care. It's the least of our worries right now.
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

To be honest, they can get to 19 first as long as our long-term stability is sorted. The longer the circus surrounding the club continues then there'll be no chance of us ever winning the league again.
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

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At the moment I don't care. It's the least of our worries right now.
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

utd. pains me to say that, but the situation the club are in i would love to see the stadium built so we can at least try and compete
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

Will this season make it 18-17 to us (assuming they win the league this season)?

If the above is true then it looks like they might get there first, but there are all sorts of unknowns. How long will Fergie go on for? Will his replacement keep the success going or will they decline? Will Rafa stay? Will the ownership situation be sorted? What about Chelsea - will they fight to get their title back? Will Abramovich spend big again? Will Arsenal be able to go that last step and add a bit of steel?

It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds. If we sort our ownership issues and Rafa adds a couple of first teamers to our weak areas, then we have a great chance to be in the mix next season. Too many unknowns though - at all the 'big four'.
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Will this season make it 18-17 to us (assuming they win the league this season)?

If the above is true then it looks like they might get there first, but there are all sorts of unknowns. How long will Fergie go on for? Will his replacement keep the success going or will they decline? Will Rafa stay? Will the ownership situation be sorted? What about Chelsea - will they fight to get their title back? Will Abramovich spend big again? Will Arsenal be able to go that last step and add a bit of steel?

It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds. If we sort our ownership issues and Rafa adds a couple of first teamers to our weak areas, then we have a great chance to be in the mix next season. Too many unknowns though - at all the 'big four'.
I really hope Fergie stays on for the next 10 years. I strongly believe it is only a matter of time before Rafa makes us champions and kick Fergie's arse home and away.
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

if we continue to be linked with (and buying) central midfielders and defenders rather than genuine attacking options on the right, left and in behind then probably them

sad but true, in time it all comes down to the transfers
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

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What are you talking about?

if you don't have the right tools for the job you can't do it or can't do it properly. hence the signings of yossi and pennant to name a couple
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

The club, the club, the club is on fire.
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At the moment I don't care. It's the least of our worries right now.
Totally agree about it being the least of our worries. However, I'll always care. The fact that we are indisputably the most successful club in this country has always meant a great deal to me and is a big part of the way I see both the club and my own support. We have always been about winning as long as I've been a Red and having the greatest trophy haul is a badge to be worn with pride (even if - in this case - the grip on the record has been growing ever more fragile by the year for a long time).
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What are you talking about?
our record in the transfer market over the last 15 years, especially with attacking players, is misrable and only improved in the last 12 months, lets hope we can find the right players otherwise it will be them, that's what im saying
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Re: Who will reach number 19 first?

Us, of course!

Whatever happened to hope.
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All top sides have squad players. I think the lad just wants a team of galacticos, which doesn't always equal success.

Our lack of league success has been more about mentality, attitude and approach than any real issue with players and transfers. That's been the case for 18 years.
i just want better attacking options

our transfer record seriously sucks over the last 15 years, unless we find the right players for the RIGHT, LEFT, in behind and fullbacks, we won't be getting anywhere near Man Utd
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unless we find the right players for the RIGHT, LEFT, in behind and fullbacks, we won't be getting anywhere near Man Utd
Has anyone got any suggestions for the RIGHT, LEFT, in behind and fullbacks?
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Has anyone got any suggestions for the RIGHT, LEFT, in behind and fullbacks?
there's loads of players on the market, besides we're supposed to have the best scouts in the footballing world, yeah right.
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there's loads of players on the market, besides we're supposed to have the best scouts in the footballing world, yeah right.
The bastards came up with Torres, Agger, Skirtel, Mascherano etc
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The bastards came up with Torres, Agger, Skirtel, Mascherano etc
yeah I know but i was referring to our record with attacking signings over the last 15 years in which Torres has been the only success

we need a right sided player, left sided player etc. until we can settle on some proper reliable attacking options in those positions - which haven't done in so many years -i doubt we will trouble Man Utd

that said generally our transfers have improved GREATLY over the last 12 months and under Rafa, lets hope it continues
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