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Re: DIC, final offer?

took me ages to get to page 94 and it really wasn't worth it.
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took me ages to get to page 94 and it really wasn't worth it.
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Re: DIC, final offer?

Hicks is meeting DIC on Monday, says someone close to the deal who wants to remain nameless because of the delicate situation of the talks that are ongoing but it wasn't Hicks himself because a source close to Hicks denied attending a meeting but wanted to remain anonymous due to being Tom Hicks himself and how could it be anyway because there aren't any talks ongoing.

George Gillett refused to get off his fat hairy arse and answer any questions.
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Anyone fancy having a bet as to what page number will reach before Gillette sells his 50% stake?

I reckon we will be upto page 120.
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Re: DIC, final offer?

BBC SPORT | Mihir Bose

The Liverpool takeover bid rumbles on
Mihir Bose - BBC sports editor 7 Mar 08, 05:56 PM The Liverpool saga continues to rumble on with news that Tom Hicks and Dubai Investment Capital (DIC) may be prepared to adapt their position in order to accommodate each other. This could lead to DIC buying 49% of the club with Hicks taking 1% from his co-owner George Gillett in order to take controlling interest.

I understand the deal being discussed between Gillett and DIC for his Liverpool shares would involve Dubai paying him £60m in cash, which would represent a profit of £40m on his cash investment.

Liverpool's two co-owners invested £20m each into the club only a few weeks ago - amazingly the only cash investment they have made. The rest of the recently refinanced funding package is in the form of letters of credit and personal guarantees.

The two Americans are believed to have each guaranteed £90m. The rest of the funding package, that has recently been refinanced, is in the form of letters of credit and personal guarantees given by Gillett and Hicks.


As part of the deal DIC would also share future profits in Liverpool and take over the loans for which Gillett has provided guarantees.


Dubai is also in negotiations with Hicks, who is not willing to sell but would like to get controlling interest, hence his desire to purchase a 1% stake from Gillett to give him a 51% holding.

In the past, Dubai has not been interested in being a minority shareholder but is now prepared to have a 49% stake.
Well-placed sources have told me Dubai have no problems with Hicks.

The American's desire to have a controlling interest is derived from the financing arrangements he is making for his sporting franchises which include Texas Rangers and Dallas Stars, among others. This requires him to have technical control of Liverpool.

The talks are believed to be proceeding amicably with expectations of a deal.

The negotiations between Gillett's lawyers and DIC have also seen the presence of Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry at the request of the American.

Although there has been talk of Dubai setting deadlines I understand this is more of a negotiating tactic. Talks are still proceeding with both Hicks and Gillett, but are still some way from completion.

It is not absolutely certain Gillett will sell.

Sources close to the deal have told me that he still has a conceptual problem about selling Liverpool, a club he fought so hard to acquire last year, snatching it away from DIC at the last minute.

Gillette has also to agree with the offer Dubai has made to him.

Back in February 2007, when Gillett and Hicks first acquired the club, the offer document made it clear the American duo had borrowed money to finance their purchase.

That document said an acquisition loan facility of £185m had been made, along with other borrowings as well.

The loan had to be refinanced in February and this has meant Liverpool's overall debt is £350m.

In addition to the £185m acquisition debt, there is a further £60m of inter-company debt, a £60m debt earmarked for the stadium as well as £45m for player transfers and working capital - all in all this emphasises just how little cash the Americans have put in.

The last two items, amounting to £105m, are charged on the books of the club. The rest of the debt is still being carried by Gillette and Hicks. All that will change if and when the Dubai deal takes place.
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Re: DIC, final offer?

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Hicks is meeting DIC on Monday, says someone close to the deal who wants to remain nameless because of the delicate situation of the talks that are ongoing but it wasn't Hicks himself because a source close to Hicks denied attending a meeting but wanted to remain anonymous due to being Tom Hicks himself and how could it be anyway because there aren't any talks ongoing.

George Gillett refused to get off his fat hairy arse and answer any questions.
This thread has gone right down the shitter since the tasty faux Amanda Staveleys and comedy fish stopped.

Anyway, apparently George Gillett has just released this statement through a spokesman:


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Re: DIC, final offer?

Dosen't anyone else find it odd that Hicks wants



in on the talks.It's all getting to confusing one day Cocos suppose to be trying to get DIC in the next he's Hicks bum chum.
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Re: DIC, final offer?

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Dosen't anyone else find it odd that Hicks wants



in on the talks.It's all getting to confusing one day Cocos suppose to be trying to get DIC in the next he's Hicks bum chum.
Hicks doesn't want Parry in the talks. In fact you might say it's the exact opposite of that.

Parry was in on Gillett's request.
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Re: DIC, final offer?

its just been on setanta sports the past while, with quotes from DIC, that they are confident a deal can be reached, and Hicks will not object to the sale of Gillets shares
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Say NO To a controlling interest

DIC would be fucking stupid to accept that
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What a fucking mess. There is a massive split right down the middle of our club.
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Does this say anything new or is it old stuff repeated? My head's mashed.

Hicks seeks funds for Liverpool bid battle-sources | Industries | Financial Services & Real Estate | Reuters
By Elena Moya

LONDON (Reuters) - Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks is trying to raise funds to match a takeover offer from a Dubai government-run fund and retain control of the English football club, sources familiar with the negotiations told Reuters.

Hicks wants to buy part or all of the 50 percent of the club he does not own, the sources said. This stake is in the hands of George Gillett, with whom Hicks bought Liverpool for 219 million pounds ($441 million) a year ago.

Hicks, also owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, and Gillett have received a 400 million pound takeover offer from Dubai International Capital (DIC).

The U.S. billionaires outbid DIC when they bought the club last year, but fell out with each other this season, following some public comments from Hicks about having held talks with German coach Juergen Klinsmann over the possibility of him replacing Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez.

"One will end up buying the other out, with Dubai ending up with a smaller stake," one of the sources said.

Hicks, who has said he is not a seller, declined to comment from his office in Texas. Gillett, in Colorado, also declined to comment, as did Liverpool.

DIC Chief Executive Sameer al-Ansari said on Tuesday its talks with Hicks and Gillett were stuck because one of the owners "was in dreamland" about valuations.

Hicks said in January he had talked to DIC "once" about a 10-15 percent stake sale, but Dubai said at the time the valuation was too high.

Hicks, co-founder of buyout firm Hicks, Muse, Tate & Furst, also owns the Dallas Stars NHL franchise, while Gillett owns NHL's Montreal Canadians.

(Editing by David Hulmes)
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Re: DIC, final offer?

If DIC were to take a 49% stake in the club then Hicks' position would strengthen considerably. Not only would Hicks be the majority shareholder, assuming he gained an extra 1%, but he would also gain a new partner with greater funds, thus strengthening his position. DIC would have the funds & could invest in the stadium, while Hicks could continue creaming all of the profits. What incentive would Hicks have for selling? Absolutely none. He is in a win-win situation. We are double fucked if Hicks hangs around.
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