DIC: takeover thread

[Kopite]

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David Bond's got a different role at his paper now but even so, I can't see the papers being used as much as they were to get the Dubai point across. Amanda Staveley will tell the likes of Bond whatever it is she needs to tell him. That leaked email and the statements of the time meant it was no longer deniable - DIC and Hicks were to meet. Staveley knows that if the papers stop selling on the strength of another Hicks-is-a-bad-man story that many of the papers will look for another angle. And if they look hard enough they'll find one. Bond might feel he was best mates with Staveley, especially with the extras he got from her (info you dirty-minded bastards), but there's no way he was told everything, no way he was told the 100% truth. But as soon as he trusted her, he'd have taken it as truth.

I don't know what she's worth now, but when you read into her past she's made some big money at different times. And not for other people, with other people's money, like al-Ansari does for DIC for example. Her own money. (Or knowing how these rich dudes work, her "own" money borrowed off a bank).

Say Hicks said to Dubai - I want to talk, no fucking about, no bullshit, I want Amanda over the table now (not like that, sewer-minds) but there's one condition: None of this gets into the papers. One word in the press, the talks are off and I'm getting that loan off Carol Vorderman. Would Staveley risk telling any reporters about it?

So Rash, yes, you were getting some pretty decent information because you were getting it from someone who was getting some pretty decent information. I bet he isn't now, just enough to keep him sweet, like others in the press.

It's wrong to tar all reporters with the same brush (made from the hairs of Martin Samuel's beard), but I'm sure even the "best" ones will break a confidence if it suits their needs at a particular time. Which means that all you will ever get from someone like David Bond is the good stuff from Dubai's point of view, alongside a bit of bullshit fed for the purposes of getting their message out.

Is Bond's word as good as his bond? I'd say there's a risk his word is the equivalent of Jimmy Melia's words when he spoke out for Hicks. If you only listen to one side of a story you can't expect to know the whole truth.

You can still have the same conclusion, but it's calibrated a bit better.

[coop]

Originally Posted by ratcatcher

Oh dear. More 'this is going to happen in the next few days' type crap.

Do people never learn?

With claims about 'someone in the know has said..............' and we're now in May and on page god knows what, you'd really think people would know better than to go post yet more guff.

Dont think anyone has said that mate, i certainly havent.

[lfc4eva99]

Originally Posted by lfc4eva99

What if Hicks comes up with say 200m for Gillet's shares... then Dubai offer 225m...? he gets another 90 days?

Also, at the moment, isnt is true that Hicks can just use 50% of his holding in the club to get loans to purchase the other 50%... but that 50% is already bought on money which was loaned out... so how can he get a loan on something that is already loaned out?

or im just confused and am not making sense.....

so I wasnt making sense then after all.....?

[Carra_is_legend]

Originally Posted by lfc4eva99

What if Hicks comes up with say 200m for Gillet's shares... then Dubai offer 225m...? he gets another 90 days?

Also, at the moment, isnt is true that Hicks can just use 50% of his holding in the club to get loans to purchase the other 50%... but that 50% is already bought on money which was loaned out... so how can he get a loan on something that is already loaned out?

or im just confused and am not making sense.....

I don't know the answer to your first question mate. Some people say that the veto agreement was only agreed orally. Some say it is written in the contract. Hicks said he used his veto when he broke the talks with DIC. Gillett said Hicks only threatened to use the veto. Fuck knows who is saying the truth here.

Hicks and Gillett bought the club using borrowed money - now that Gillett wants out, Hicks is trying to borrow the 50% so he can buy out Gillett. From the bank's point of view, the situation remains the same except that instead of lending the money to 2 owners with both supplying their personal guarantees, they now have to lend to Hicks with Hicks giving the personal guarantees. But because of the credit crunch, Hicks is probably finding it difficult to borrow the money needed to buy the 50% from Gillett.

[Trucker Paddy]

Still think a hitman on the fat fuck would be the best option we're set for another season of no success if that cunt remains, the rangers and the stars fans also fuckin hate him, one of those mad teenagers over there with a gun who wants to make a name for himself this is your chance to go down as a red legend!

[Ted]

You spin me right round, baby, right round. Like a record, baby right round. Round, round.

[SpeedyG]

Originally Posted by Paul14

The bottom line is if they can't afford to build the stadium and give the manager some decent funds to spend, which was the main point of the takeover, then they should step aside and let someone who can. Whether that's DIC or someone else.

Can't believe we're a year down the line and still no nearer to building the stadium, or paying for it, with the manager yet again having to wheel and deal to buy his targets and close the rather large gap above us.

Spot on and if they do manage to pull it off we're looking at 50m (made up #) of interest payments per year. Arsenal are struggling with their wage structure (hence losing Flamini) and they've not borrowed as much as Hicks is looking to do.

[Kaizer Sauze]

Apparently Oli Kay has some new info in tommorows times

[SpeedyG]

Originally Posted by Paul14

So just a rehash of what's been said on here then.

You are right his last two columns have said the same, just using different words.

[ratcatcher]

Originally Posted by coop

Dont think anyone has said that mate, i certainly havent.

No I know. Its just all the stuff in this thread is doing me head in. I just wish it would all be sorted but I seriously think we're into a war of atrition now.

God knows when it will end (and I bet even He doesnt really!).

[Sangria]

What is with the two pages missing at the end. Just got my head around one, it feels like GroundHog day.

[StevieH]

Anfield insiders sense that there is another crisis just around the corner.

Axe hangs over more Liverpool FC players - Liverpool Daily Post.co.uk

[Trucker Paddy]

Originally Posted by Kaizer Sauze

Apparently Oli Kay has some new info in tommorows times

Same story as usual just worded in a different way no doubt, just kill the fat cunt and be done with it, fuck given rogan taylor £5000, fiver each and top hitman sort it out

[taliesin08]

The fat controller has been in London on the mooch for money for the last two weeks and has been told nothing doing.The reason DIC have not bought Gillette's shares is that it makes more sense to wait till the current 350 million loan has to be refinanced which in the current climate is highly unlikely so therefore we become a more attractive and cost effective proposition. So this crap will drag on into next season at least unless da texan twat realises his bargaining position is becoming weaker and sells while the going is good for maximum price.

[rondeco]

Kay has written nothing about us.

[Slimmy]

Liverpool co-owner George Gillett was in London on Friday night for informal talks with Dubai International Capital, the group hoping to buy the club. (The Times)

BBC SPORT | Football | Gossip | Saturday's gossip column

Apparently he must of

[cochcaer]

Originally Posted by Cardie

So we're back at the stage we were at about page 30.....then 65......then 100....130....150.....

Depressing but very true, but tune in tomorrow for more shadow-boxing news..

[JohnnyH]

Endgame!

[Heinze]

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[real red]

Originally Posted by Heinze

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