DIC: takeover thread

[coop]

This is my personal view on what is happening and what i have been told.

Dubai Holdings are still very much interested in buying the club and their willingness to purchase the club as not diminished one bit.

There is plenty going off behind the scenes that is not public knowledge (and is not likely to be public knowledge) but the confidence levels at Dubai Holdings is very high and nothing has happened over this last few weeks to deter it infact if anything it has increased.

The feeling is that Hicks is in his final fling as he has failed everywhere he has tried to get investment and the Hedge Funds may well be the final attempt at getting some cash.

If Tom Hicks does some how manage to get investment then i dread to think of the terms he has agreed to.

A fine example would be that he club itself could be used as collateral meaning that if Hicks then failed to keep up with payments then they could quite easily repossess the club and obviously sell its assets.

That is a worse case scenario and will hopefully never happen but Tom Hicks is so desperate to get investment who knows what terms he would agree to.

Lets not forget Dubai Holdings are very influential and its not in the best interests of investors to go against them in this current time.

Dubai Holdings will not make any announcement that they have purchased the club until the ink is dry on the contract after been stung by Moores and Parry.

[Thants]

Cheers Coop I dip in every now and again to this thread as no-one seems to have a clue whats going on from the start (especially me) but your summaries make kinda sense to me.

[WaltonRed]

So Coop you think it'll just come out of the blue so much as a story which has dragged on for moons could of course?

[Cardie]

So we're back at the stage we were at about page 30.....then 65......then 100....130....150.....

[coop]

Dubai Holdings and the Sheikh were made to look very foolish by David Moores and Rick Parry.

They are a multi-billion pound business who expect to deal with fellow well educated professional busines people.

Im not going to go over old ground but the way David Moores and Rick Parry treated them when they first wanted to buy Liverpool has not been forgotten and probably never will.

I would be amazed if there was an honourary life president lets put it that way.

As fans we are now paying for David Moores and Rick Parrys fuck up so when i read about how upset they are about what is currently going off at Liverpool i tend to want to throttle them even more as it is no-one elses fault we are in this mess except them two.

To currently buy Liverpool and build us a new stadium whilst giving Rafa a good transfer budget to compete with the top clubs you are looking at nearly £1 billion (its impossible to type that without thinking of the bad guy off Austin Powers).

That figure sounds a lot but when you break it down its going to cost possibly £450 million to buy the club. A further £300 million at least to build a new stadium. If you say the stadium would take 3 years to build what would Rafa need to spend on players to challenge for the major honours. If you said £100 million that still takes the final figure to £850 million.

You would have to be very serious about buying the club and having a long term view to be spending that sort of money.

I think when the times is close for Dubai Holdings to actually buy the club then you will get leaks to the press or some members in forums may get downwind of it but there will be no official announcement until the deal is 100% finalised.

[Scouse Lad]

Coops mate what you are saying make sense but how do you suddenly know all of this? were you part of the sos meeting with Amanda? also if you were to put a time limit on it would you expect something to happen in May?

[coop]

Originally Posted by Scouse Lad

Coops mate what you are saying make sense but how do you suddenly know all of this? were you part of the sos meeting with Amanda? also if you were to put a time limit on it would you expect something to happen in May?

I trust the person who tells me any information 100% and i have a lot of respect for them.

I support what SOS are doing but im nothing to do with them.

I wish i was in the meeting with Amanda Staveley.

Its hard to put a time limit on it but as ive said Dubai Holdings would buy the club today if they had the opportunity but at the moment it seems Mr Hicks is running out of people he can ask for some money.

[Sangria]

Cheers Coop that all makes absolute perfect sense.
The sad thing is we have one stubborn Texan at the helm and he will be will be hard to shift. You are right and that bit is very scary, he would take any terms of borrowing that he could, he is that desperate. That really does worry me.

[Section_31]

Nice one Coop for bringing some order to the chaos!

[edinjapan]

Everything you say makes sense except for one thing.

In order to secure finances against the club at whatever rate, Hicks needs full control. Or he needs to sign over his own half, which is owned by the loan arrangers already in reality. If G won't sell to him as he has stated, why doesn't DIC buy GG's half now? To allow TH to keep some face?

So the question for all of us is, Hick's must think he still has a chance of getting Gilett's half. Why is this?

[woo-lfc]

Originally Posted by edinjapan

Everything you say makes sense except for one thing.

In order to secure finances against the club at whatever rate, Hicks needs full control. Or he needs to sign over his own half, which is owned by the loan arrangers already in reality. If G won't sell to him as he has stated, why doesn't DIC buy GG's half now? To allow TH to keep some face?

So the question for all of us is, Hick's must think he still has a chance of getting Gilett's half. Why is this?

Because hes a self obsessed, ignorant cunt who thinks he still has a chance of winning the fans over, he thinks that persistently saying he wants to buy the club will show the fans he cares when really the best thing he could do is sell his shares and leave. Did I mention hes a cunt already.

God I hate this thread so much, even the decent articles in it do my head in as most of them contradict the other.

[Red Nick]

The real problem here is he is unlikely to be gone before the start of the new season and it will be the club fucked for another season, very depressing indeed, cant someone just shoot the cunt, apparently they have lots of guns in texas

[woo-lfc]

Originally Posted by Red Nick

The real problem here is he is unlikely to be gone before the start of the new season and it will be the club fucked for another season, very depressing indeed, cant someone just shoot the cunt, apparently they have lots of guns in texas

Ive said many times, give me a rifle, a plane ticket and an alibi and it will be done.

[Scouse Lad]

Originally Posted by edinjapan

Everything you say makes sense except for one thing.

In order to secure finances against the club at whatever rate, Hicks needs full control. Or he needs to sign over his own half, which is owned by the loan arrangers already in reality. If G won't sell to him as he has stated, why doesn't DIC buy GG's half now? To allow TH to keep some face?

So the question for all of us is, Hick's must think he still has a chance of getting Gilett's half. Why is this?

Cause if it goes to court Hicks can say look I can make GG a offer.

[edinjapan]

Originally Posted by woo-lfc

Because hes a self obsessed, ignorant cunt who thinks he still has a chance of winning the fans over, he thinks that persistently saying he wants to buy the club will show the fans he cares when really the best thing he could do is sell his shares and leave. Did I mention hes a cunt already.

God I hate this thread so much, even the decent articles in it do my head in as most of them contradict the other.

Yeah you mentioned it. Am with you all the way. Even if he thinks that about the fans, that he can turn it around, he must still think Gilett might sell to him. That's my point, and my worst fear.

But I can't see any way that if he got Gilett's share he could then afford to build a new stadium. Which means he is playing mind games and wants to sell, OR he's thick as pig shit and he's going to take us to oblivion with his own fat head.

[Scouse Lad]

BENITEZ DROPS HINT ON BOARDROOM BATTLE | Football Transfer News, Football News, Fixtures, Results, Match Reports, Stats
Rafael Benitez has made it clear that he wants Liverpool's owners to "work quickly" in the transfer market as he plans for a summer of upheaval at Anfield.

And the Liverpool boss also claimed that a "final solution" was close in the battle for boardroom control.

Benitez's stance came on the day that he lost first-team coach Alex Miller to a managerial job in Japan, slapped a £15million price tag on Peter Crouch and confirmed that Harry Kewell would be released at the end of the season after rejecting a new contract on less money.

Former Liverpool assistant Sammy Lee, sacked earlier this season as boss of Bolton, is an early front-runner to replace Miller.

Benitez also revealed he had held "private" talks with Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill over Gareth Barry's future - Liverpool had a £10million bid rejected last week - while confirming that he would discuss John Arne Riise's future if a good enough offer was received.

But it is Benitez's proactive stance on the club's future that will raise eyebrows.

He said: "All I can add about the boardroom situation is that I am in contact with both of them (co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett) and we are trying to progress with different issues that we have.

"I do not know exactly everything about shares, but in terms of what is my responsibility, we are progressing and I am doing my job.

"Everybody knows the club needs to be well organised and everybody knows what they have to do. Who will be in charge? Maybe the final solution will be soon."

Benitez added: "We work like I did before. If I have any ideas about signing players I tell them, the owners, and also Rick Parry (chief executive), and if they say yes then we progress.

"Normally I do not ask about difficult things, normally they say yes, both of them say yes.

"I want transfer business to be done as quickly as possible. If you sign a player at the end of July you do not have much time, it is better to sign players as quickly as possible.

"How many we sign depends on the market. We have offers (in) for some players, maybe we can sell as well as buy. I am really pleased and happy with the squad, maybe we need to bring in two or three new players, but if we need to sell then we will buy new players."

Benitez was clearly determined to show he is keeping his side of the bargain struck last month with the owners about the future.

He said: "We are working hard to get closer to our targets. We need to wait but I will try to talk to the owners, I will try to talk with Rick Parry and if we have the green light we will progress with our targets."

And Benitez was also quick to underline his position over Barry, Crouch and Riise.

"Martin O'Neill is clear about the situation and we have agreed to wait until the end of the season," he added.

"He was telling everyone (about our offer), but we are willing to wait and we will try to talk again about the possibilities.

"I was talking privately with Martin before (the offer) and he knows our ideas, clearly.

"Harry has talked with his agent and we were trying to reach an agreement, but we could not get that so he will be released at the end of the season.

"Riise has one year more on his contract. He is not playing at the moment but he knows that if we receive an offer that is good for him and good for us, okay, we will talk.

"But at this moment he is our player. I am really pleased with him because he is a fantastic professional."

On Crouch, Benitez revealed an irritation with the situation, saying: "We offered Peter a new contract.

"Nobody was talking about him when we signed him from Southampton and then everyone was criticising him because he was not scoring goals.

"But I supported him. Now he wants to play every week. We know that Portsmouth are always in the media, talking, every time. But we have had no official offers, just talking.

"But if we receive an offer, £15million or more would be reasonable, I want the best for Crouch and the best for my club.

"I talked to him before and I have talked to him two days ago. He knows my position and I know his position, we are professionals we want the best for each of us.

"But now he is a different player, he is a big name. For the last month we have heard that he wants to play, he wants to leave and that there are other clubs who would like to sign him.

"We will now wait and see whether there are any offers. Then we will talk with him. Clearly we would want a big price."

[coop]

Originally Posted by edinjapan

Everything you say makes sense except for one thing.

In order to secure finances against the club at whatever rate, Hicks needs full control. Or he needs to sign over his own half, which is owned by the loan arrangers already in reality. If G won't sell to him as he has stated, why doesn't DIC buy GG's half now? To allow TH to keep some face?

So the question for all of us is, Hick's must think he still has a chance of getting Gilett's half. Why is this?

As far as im aware once a third party (Dubai Holdings) had made a bid for one of the partners (Hicks and Gillett) shares in the company then the partner was obliged to offer his shares at the same value to the other partner.

Its a confusing way of saying if Dubai Holdings have made a bid for Gilletts shares then as part of the initial purchase agreement then Gillett has to offer Hicks his shares.

I get a feeling Tom Hicks is thinking of going down the way of court proceedings if he can manage to raise the funds.

Lets say for example Hicks manages to get outside investment and offers £200 million for Gilletts shares. Gillett has already said he wont sell to Hicks so therefore Hicks can try and take Gillett to court for been in breach of their agreement and he can prove he has the money available.

Whilst Hicks does not have the finance available then he can not down the route of court proceedings.

Dubai Holdings do not want it to go down the route of court action because this will purely drag out the situation and they want to ideally purchase the club asap so they can help the club in the summer and not let Liverpool FC suffer thanks to Tom Hicks.

This is only my personal opinion but i think if it looked like it was going to go to court then i wouldnt be surprised to Dubai Holdings pull out.

I dont know the reason why Dubai Holdings have not bought Gilletts shares not but it is obviously to do with the 'power of veto' installed into the contract the two agreed to when they purchased the club.

[hamstrung]

Rafa da man.

Can't beli