DIC: takeover thread

[Top of the Kop]

Originally Posted by coop

Right then Rash i will try again and let me know which bits you dont understand of what i type infact can anyone else let me know if they dont understand cos im sure im typing a foriegn language.

When Rafa took over Liverpool Chelsea had in the previous two seasons just spent £200 million+ on players.

Man United already had a Premiership winning team and only needed a few new players to keep an already successful team 'ticking over'

Liverpool needed a complete overhaul with not only the first eleven but the full squad including the reserves.

Is it any wonder we have outspent Chelsea and Man United since Rafa has been at the club.

Please Rashid tell me what you cant understand out of that statement. Its clear for you to read why we needed during Rafas time to outspent Chelsea and Man United.

mate we have all been telling him this for ages, just give up my friend! the little tyke will never agree with you! i agree with you by the way...

[coop]

Rashid mate im not disputing he hasnt had cash to spend what im trying to get across to you is Man United can spend nearly £70 million on 3 players, Chelsea are rumoured to be spending £35 million on one player (Aguero) yet £70 million Rafa would be expected to sign a full team for that.

[Rashid]

Originally Posted by coop

Rashid mate im not disputing he hasnt had cash to spend what im trying to get across to you is Man United can spend nearly £70 million on 3 players, Chelsea are rumoured to be spending £35 million on one player (Aguero) yet £70 million Rafa would be expected to sign a full team for that.

Rafa chooses ten players at £7m each, that's his stance. As I said I don't think he needed to change so many players but he chose to do that at the expense of signing more top quality players, he should live and die by that. He has spent a lot of money without a doubt.

[coop]

Rafa has made mistakes of that there is no denying. I think its been widely posted that Rafa should have signed Alves when he had the chance instead of Pennant and i think it was Kuyt.

The problem is and Rafa obviously sees it that way as well is injuries and putting all your eggs in one basket.

A fine example is the situation we are currently in. Go back to the start of the season we are celebrating the signing of Torres and at the start of September he goes and gets a long term injury. We would have been royally fucked this season as it would have been too late to get anyone else in and we wouldnt have had the cash to do anyways.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but i can fully understand Rafa not been willing to take that risk.

[zigackly]

"Rafa chooses ten players at £7m each, that's his stance."

You really are the lord of all oafs.

[Rashid]

Originally Posted by coop

Rafa has made mistakes of that there is no denying. I think its been widely posted that Rafa should have signed Alves when he had the chance instead of Pennant and i think it was Kuyt.

The problem is and Rafa obviously sees it that way as well is injuries and putting all your eggs in one basket.

A fine example is the situation we are currently in. Go back to the start of the season we are celebrating the signing of Torres and at the start of September he goes and gets a long term injury. We would have been royally fucked this season as it would have been too late to get anyone else in and we wouldnt have had the cash to do anyways.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but i can fully understand Rafa not been willing to take that risk.

Rafa signed Babel who says he is a striker and Rafa signed Voronin whom he said was topclass and not just a "free" and we had Kuyt a £10m striker... if that happened then he should take responsibility.

I'd say it's more risky buying these journeymen squad players....

[real red]

Originally Posted by Baps

From: t.hicksjnr1892@dallasmail.com
To: *******@hotmail.co.uk
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:46:20 -0500
Subject: Kop Ltd Generic Email

Hi Reds Fan,

This is a generic email we are sending to many Reds fans.

Today it has been made public in the UK press of Dubai International Capital (DIC) intention of installing Jose Mourinho (ex Chelsea FC Head Coach) as Head Coach of Liverpool FC if they were ever to take control of the club. I can confirm that we also have been informed by our sources in London and Dubai that this is the case, contrary to any denials by DIC. We have also been informed by our sources of DIC's intention to investigate and promote the idea of a ground-share with 'neighbours' Everton FC. We understand meetings have already taken place between DIC and Everton FC representatives in London.
It has been made clear to us on many occasions since we acquired the Club that the vast majority of Reds fans are against both of these ideas. We are sending this email to ask for your support for Rafa Benitez during this difficult period.

You'll Never Walk Alone.

As fake as a tranny's fanny.

[Red Nick]

Its fairly clear that Rafa has made some great signings and some pretty poor ones.

However when he has spent top dollar in Mascher, Pepe, Xabi & Nando he has got top quality.

The only real stick you can beat him with is his desire to buy squad players rather than quality ie he could have bought a Mancini instead of Babel & Benayoun and Alves instead of Pennant & Kuyt or Bellamy.

The bottom line is the team is in much better shape than the one he inherited when he arrived, just hope he buys a quality wide player this summer

[Rashid]

Originally Posted by Red Nick

The bottom line is the team is in much better shape than the one he inherited when he arrived.

So it should be mate with the money spent.

[rebel23]

what people fail to point out is that he has paid for every signing through just the CL prize money, so you can't argue with it even though it is a slow process

£100m net by figures he has spent and the CL prize money after another semi final (regardless whether we make the final) equal about that over the 4 years

if we had another manager not as successful as Benitez and getting knocked out in the group stages or quarter finals, I wonder what our squad would look like, it would probably look a lot like GH's did and we'd fall further behind

[Red Nick]

If we hadnt won the CL in 2005 and got entry into the following season´s competition this club would be a lot worse than it is player wise, however we would now probably be owned by Thaksin and not the American cowboys

So some of you might say it would have been better if we hadnt won the trophy

[real red]

From: sammy-al-ansari-L40TH@dubaimail.com
To: *******@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:46:20 -0500
Subject: DIC Generic Email

Hi Reds Fan,

This is a generic email we are sending to many Reds fans.

We're getting a bit worried about reports Rafael Benitez is not spending his budget wisely.

A top advisor told us that Rafa was a poor judge of player.

Our advisor said that Voronin was rip-off even at that price, and that Babel was nearly as bad as Dirk Kuyt, a player our advisor got quite angry about.

He also said that he couldn't believe Rafa had signed Crouch FFS. (Is FFS an honour given to English people by your Queen, like Gerrard MBE has?)

We pointed out that Fernando Torres had done well but our advisor assured us this was as a fluke and unlikely to happen again. He didn't answer us when we also said the same about Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, Javier Mascherano and Xabi Alonso. In fact no matter how many times we pointed this out he seemed to answer other questions.

Still, our advisor has his finger on the pulse and so we trust his judgement.

He tells us Jose Mourinho is the man for the job at Anfield, and as such we have got him lined up ready for when we buy out those Hicks boys. From what our advisor tells us we needn't worry about spending a third of our transfer budget on paying Rafa off and paying Mourinho's first year wages.

Our advisor also tells us that we need to look again at the stadium plans. He says the best stadium in the country is not far from his home. Although we're still waiting for more details, he tells us we'll like its name. It's in North London and named after an airline.

He's also told us that we need to start looking again at plans for our next home kit. We asked for his views and he suggested it was a good shirt, but that the sleeves should be white. And that white shorts would work better.

Please support our campaign to (note to secretary, please put a phrase in here that sounds like we care, but don't mention that profit we'll make).

(Note to secretary, insert some words from one of their songs. Not that scouser bobby one, the one they do before the players are on the field.)

Yours in friendship,

Sammy A.

[rondeco]

That last one is made up. I'm sure of it.

[isr]

Originally Posted by rebel23

no one will fall for that from Hicks

Originally Posted by zigackly

Oh I can think of one or two who might.

Well, here's a classic fish who was reeled in, hook line and sinker.

Originally Posted by Dirk

I don't know if it's been posted or not but The Mail on Sunday are reporting that Mourinho has said that DIC has offered him the manager's job should they get in. I'm with Jim Real Red on this one, they're spinning more stories than the incumbent owners. I'm beginning to think that I don't want them anywhere near the club, just like I don't want Gillett and Hicks anywhere near the club. Regardless of whether this Mourinho story is true, they have been spinning everywhere. Fuck off you twats.

Dirk, its a bit rich coming to the conclusion that they are twats who should fuck off, and you "dont want them anywhere near the club", based on a newspaper story whose veracity you have no clue about. You don't even know which side's professional liars (aka PR consultants) planted that story. Or even considered its timing (whats Liverpools next game again?).

If you all know that there is a PR war being waged by all sides. And you know that professional liars (oops, sorry, PR consultants) have been hired by all sides. Then, why the heck are you all getting your knickers into a twist over every story?.

You're like children, with a dandelion in your hand. Puffing away. "She loves me. She loves me not. She loves me ...."

Hostile takeovers are always conducted this way. Misinformation, shifting positions behind the scenes. Closely holding your legal cards to your chest (eg: the exact nature of the "1st option" clause between Hicks and Gillette). This is just standard operating procedure.

The only real difference here is that the sporting journalists are the ones doing most of the coverage on this takeover battle. They have a much more simplistic view of financial matters, and are more easily led up the garden path than their more seasoned counterparts in the financial press.

Did you think the normal rules of business suspended themselves for a small-to-medium sized investment like LFC (because face it, thats what we are)?

Originally Posted by Dirk

*Awaits onslaught of disgruntled Middle Eastern/Asian posters*

I don't know Dirk. Is this the reaction you're really looking for?