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View Poll Results: Do you want RBS to refinance the brigding loan and burden the Club with £350m debt?
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Old 22nd January 2008, 03:32 AM
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BIG NEWS

I know these are in the monster thread but don't want to see them buried there as it's HUGE news.

Liverpool's refinancing deal hits late hitch

By David Bond


Peter Crouch might have saved Liverpool from a disastrous defeat by Aston Villa at Anfield last night but the club could be set for yet more turmoil after it emerged that a £350 million refinancing deal is on the verge of collapse.

Although the club's under-fire American owners insist negotiations with the Royal Bank of Scotland and investment bank Wachovia remain on course, City sources told The Daily Telegraph last night that the deal had hit a last-minute hitch.

The latest twist in the Liverpool saga could open the door for Dubai International Capital to launch a £350 million takeover bid for the club - a year after they were squeezed out by the Americans.

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard admitted last night that the off-field problems were affecting the players, saying: "We know what's going on, but as players you've got a job to do on the pitch and you try to put what's going on off the pitch to the back of your mind. But sometimes it's impossible, when it is every day."

Liverpool co-chairman Tom Hicks promised last Monday that the deal to refinance the one-year loan from RBS to fund his £220 million takeover with George Gillett last February would be announced at the end of last week.

A spokesman for Hicks said yesterday he remained confident the refinancing deal would be concluded. He also reiterated a statement issued by Hicks on Sunday which denied that the Dallas billionaire had already agreed to sell the club to DIC. Hicks maintains he is committed to being a long-term owner of Liverpool.

Time is running out for the Americans to conclude the loan agreement. Contrary to reports that they had until the end of February to sign the deal, it is now understood their one-year loan with RBS expires in just under two weeks.

However, if the refinancing falls through, DIC will be in pole position to come in and rescue the club.

Despite tentative negotiations with Hicks, no formal offer has yet been tabled by DIC.

Liverpool's refinancing deal hits late hitch - Football News - Telegraph


Hicks and Gillett are running out of time

By David Bond


Liverpool's under-fire American owners say they are still on course to secure a £350 million refinancing deal despite yet another delay.

With the future ownership of the club in the balance, the conclusion of the deal with Royal Bank of Scotland and America's fourth-largest bank, Wachovia, will determine whether Dubai International Capital are able to launch an immediate £350m takeover bid.

Although DIC want to make a move now, they will not launch a formal offer until they have held talks with RBS, who loaned Tom Hicks and George Gillett the money to complete their £220m acquisition last February. So far Hicks has refused to allow DIC to talk to the bank until after the refinancing is complete.

In an interview with the American business network CNBC at the start of last week, Hicks said: "It [the refinancing] has taken a little bit longer than it should. But it will close by the end of the week." Despite that promise, the latest in a series of deadlines missed by Hicks and the banks, City sources told The Daily Telegraph yesterday that no deal was likely to be announced until the "latter end of the week".

The latest delay to a refinancing package promised since the end of last summer will lead to fresh concern that the Americans' plans to reorganise their debts have suffered a last-minute hitch.

Time is running out. Contrary to reports that they had until the end of February to sign the deal, it is now understood that their initial one-year loan with RBS expires on Feb 4. RBS executives are also likely to be made nervous by threats from fans to build on their protests at Anfield last night by calling for a boycott of the bank.

A spokesman for Hicks yesterday said the Dallas billionaire was confident the refinancing was on track. He reiterated a statement issued on Sunday which denied reports of a deal with DIC and insisted he and Gillett have no interest in selling the club. But it is thought that Hicks feels he will be in a stronger position to demand more money for Liverpool from DIC once refinancing is complete.

DIC, however, are prepared to call his bluff and drop their interest unless Hicks lowers his expectations.

Talks between Hicks and DIC over the possible sale of a 15 per cent stake in the club collapsed in November after the American valued the club at £1 billion, a price DIC believed unrealistic.

Hicks and Gillett are running out of time - Football News - Telegraph
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Re: BIG NEWS

It seems RBS are getting cold feet. This could be a result of:
  • the market crash today, and likely US downturn tomorrow
  • the protest tonight.
The former may have helped but I've a feeling it's the latter that's causing them greatest concern. They may have believed (falsely) that we were in favour of the refinance and that not to proceed with it would be a PR disaster for them.

Institutions like RBS are very image conscious and wouldn't want to be associated with the financial meltdown of a famous Club like Liverpool, especially if it was a result of going against the PUBLIC wishes of fans.

So here's what I think needs to be done.

We need to bombard the executives at RBS with emails informing them that we do NOT want them to approve the refinance deal. Forget Wachovia as they're US-based and less likely to care (since Liverpool would not be so
well-known there).

I don't know who's leading the RBS negotiations or who the best person to contact there is. Anybody here work there?

Also, a poll along the lines of "do you want RBS to refinance G&H's loan" will work if we can get it in the Press (I'll try to attach one above). Rash - any chance your contact might use it?

Tonight was only the first step - now we need to ram home the advantage.
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Ah Jesus H Christ...
No, Red22.
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Re: BIG NEWS

Looks like they've got something similar going on over on RAWK. I've taken these links from there (although it would be better if we could find out which area is dealing with the refinancing and email them directly):

investor.relations@rbs.com
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Also took this template from there:

Dear sir/ madam,

I am writing to you as it has been widely reported that you are on the verge of completing a deal with Messrs Hicks & Gillett to refinance their purchase of Liverpool Football Club.

You may not be aware, but there is growing discontent and ill feeling towards Hicks & Gillett from Liverpool fans around the world, due to the various negative press that has come about following their purchase of the club.

There are a number of protests planned, with a further boycott of the club’s merchandising. The feeling amongst the fans (customers) is they want these two out of the club at all costs.

I would advise you to consider if this is the sort of publicity you would like attached to your excellent institution, and whether it would be such a sound investment to a business that is about to lose its most loyal customers.

Yours faithfully
Would be more meaningful if you did your own though - short and to the point is all that's needed.
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Re: BIG NEWS

Is this to smoke out hicks forum name? He's the only one that will vote yes
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Re: BIG NEWS

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Rash - any chance your contact might use it?
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Re: BIG NEWS

Not sure that I agree that attacking RBS is going to make one iota of a difference to their decision. This is a HUGE bank; I would expect that this deal, large though it may be, would not come close to the top end of their transactions. The suggestion that they might be put off because of the negative publicity which would surround any "Leeds" style collapse is, frankly, naive. They'd only be put off if they felt that they'd be at risk of not getting a return on their investment. This is a bank, not a charitable organisation dependent on the goodwill and benevolence of the general public.
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This could be the most lopsided poll in history
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I voted yes as I have the song 'I'll find my way home' by Jon & Vangelis in my head which was sung by Jon Anderson from the group ' Yes'.

Pointless poll. No offence, like, but we are all in agreement over this issue. We all know that.
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