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Old 19th January 2008, 02:10 PM
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

It seems a hell of a lot of money compared to the original sale price, and, like a few others, I'd be cautious about DIC having been bitten once, but I can't see them being any worse than the present pair, and they're a lot more financially stable and would be much better in their off-the-pitch conduct.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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Moores must be fuming to think what he could have had if he'd sat tight.

£500m is a lot of money, and if that's a true figure, then it will be hard for Hicks to turn down in this climate.

But that £500m is only the start of what DIC will need to put in. What about the cost of the stadium? How much will they be expecting back each season? How many seasons will they wait to start getting something back?

I still think it's got to be better than Hicks though.
Moores wouldn't have got this amount of money though if he'd have sat tight. He may have not got the stadium plans approved based on his finances, which as stated is possibly one of the reasons why DIC are willing to come in and pay the higher price.

Moores should be fuming that what was promised as part of the take over has not materialised.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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That's why I'm not convinced this is genuine. Unless they don't want a new stadium.
They want the stadium, big part of what will generate revenue for them.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

I think the fans can make an impact on LFC like never before over the coming days.

The club's future is genuinely on a knife-edge, and if there is even any doubt in the Yanks' minds that they should take the proffit and run - they need to be made aware that there is no going back for them and that relationships can't be repaired, that they should take what they have and go.

With regards DIC coming back with the increased bid, I obviously don't know much about the personalities behind them but I'd suggest you don't get that rich without being something of an egomaniac.

Being beaten by the yanks in the first place may have lit the touchpaper, while seeing banners such as DIC SOS being shown halfway across the world could have had some impact, in fact I'm convinced they did.

Now's the time for the fans to tip the balance and make it happen, because it just needs a little push - I'm convinced of it.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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I think the fans can make an impact on LFC like never before over the coming days.
One last big effort on Monday night, just to make sure they get the message once and for all.
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Old 19th January 2008, 02:19 PM
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

If this I genuine, I'd be stunned if The Twats said no - Gillett especially, who is oft reputed to be asset rich but cash poor. £500m is an incredible return after just a year - almost a 100% profit for something they didn't actually stump up any cash for.

To those questioning the size of the offer, I wrote at length last week about why we are undervalued and how we have the greatest potential of any club in world football to make money for an investor. If they do buy us, I'd be stunned if they didn't follow up with significant investment in a stadium and, more importantly for the short term, the team. It wouldn't make sense not to if they want to add value to their purchase.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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One last big effort on Monday night, just to make sure they get the message once and for all.
Unfortunately they won't be there though. Gillett and Hicks are safe and sound on the other side of the Atlantic.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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Unfortunately they won't be there though. Gillett and Hicks are safe and sound on the other side of the Atlantic.
Gillett Jr will be there, and you can bne sure they'll either watch the match or read press reports. If we demonstrate loudly enough they'll 'hear' it.
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Old 19th January 2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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Unfortunately they won't be there though. Gillett and Hicks are safe and sound on the other side of the Atlantic.
It doesn't matter, it'll make news no matter where they are.

The fans are central to any long-term money making strategy they have, if the fans aren't onboard then the game is up, it's as simple as that.

These fellas are so comprehensivley out of their depth it's untrue.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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Why not? Do you think they want the hassle of building a new stadium which has escalated in cost together with the difficulty that they have had with the refinancing package, not to mention the criticism and protests from the fans. If they can each pocket £75m they will be on their way.

In relation to Why Not, i think the answer is simply because they don't have too. With regard to the stadium and the rising costs i think they're very close to securing the finance, which will be loaded onto the club. DIC know this and their offer to me smacks of a last desperate "shit or bust" throw of the dice. In relation to the protests i honestly think they couldn't give a sloppy fart what we think. Finally i think they will view 75 mill as small potatos to what they can/will eventually make. Sorry to be negative Stevie but it's what i honestly think. I pray to God almighty that i'm wrong.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

went past stanley park yesterday,bright coloured porta cabins are in place and even an ad hoc 'road' into the park,might be nothing like.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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In relation to Why Not, i think the answer is simply because they don't have too. With regard to the stadium and the rising costs i think they're very close to securing the finance, which will be loaded onto the club. DIC know this and their offer to me smacks of a last desperate "shit or bust" throw of the dice. In relation to the protests i honestly think they couldn't give a sloppy fart what we think. Finally i think they will view 75 mill as small potatos to what they can/will eventually make. Sorry to be negative Stevie but it's what i honestly think. I pray to God almighty that i'm wrong.
You're probably right. Unfortunaly.
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

it would be gauling if the americans get a massive payoff because that same money could have been spent on the stadium or team investment, i wonder how DIC propose to structure the deal and what their plans are if it costs them a bomb to buy the yanks out. Moores should have gone with them (sigh)
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Old 19th January 2008, 02:38 PM
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Re: BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

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In relation to Why Not, i think the answer is simply because they don't have too. With regard to the stadium and the rising costs i think they're very close to securing the finance, which will be loaded onto the club. DIC know this and their offer to me smacks of a last desperate "shit or bust" throw of the dice. In relation to the protsts i honestly think they couldn't give a sloppy fart what we thinl and finally i think they will view 75 mill as small potatos to what they can/will eventually make. Sorry to be negative Stevie but it's what i honestly think. I pray to God almighty that i'm wrong.
They may be close to securing a finance package, but the stadium design has not been finalised and they have not agreed an AMP (agreed maximum price) with a contractor for the stadium. An Architect will be able to provide approximate costs based on what they have designed, but it is the Laing O'Rourke's of this world who will be tendering for this work & the value of the risk elements that they will build into their tender will be massive. The actual cost of the stadium could still be £50-100m+ over & above what Gillett and Hicks have budgeted for.

I agree that they couldn't care about protests as they are hard nosed businessman and won't be directly affected as they live across the Atlantic. It would be water off a ducks back to them. They needn't step foot in this country ever again, let alone the city of Liverpool. When has Malcolm Glazer ever visited Old Trafford?

I believe that this has come to a head & I can see Gillett and Hicks ending their association with the club sooner rather than later.
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