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17th January 2008, 11:39 AM
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RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
The events of the past few days have proved what, deep down, we've known for a long time. These two jerry builders are not fit to be associated with our club. Whatever we might have thought about their motives, their personas, their politics, we allowed ourselves to believe that they had a gut sense of Liverpool's special ness, and a good sense of what is the minimum acceptable requirement here in terms of honour and tradition. In short, they gave a good impression of understanding, and cherishing The Liverpool Way.
They said they would build a stadium fit for the world's most legendary football club.
They said they would never contemplate securitising their loans against the club.
They said they'd back our manager.
They lied.
We know this now
We know it for an absolute fact.
Our club is in the hands of disreputable men, men who, if they want success for Liverpool, want it solely in order to fatten up the calf for sale.
The current situation is unworkable. Rafael Benitez, with his ingrained sense of honour, dignity and morality, has been publicly humiliated by Hicks and Gillett (and while Hicks is far and away the baddie of the piece, let's not underestimate the smiling, twinkling George's complicity in all this any more than he has underestimated our intelligence, our nous, and our own ingrained ability to rat out a wrong 'un when they wheedle their way in.) Rafa would have walked away by now but for one small thing the Americans will never 'get'. He loves it here. He loves the club, loves the fans, loves the city, and loves The Liverpool Way. More than anybody at the club, he is desperate to deliver for us that which we long for so badly.
They will sack him in the summer. They have left themselves with no other option. If Hicks had come out on Sunday and said:
"Fair do's Rafa, we were itchy on the trigger, you weren't conforming to the chart flow on our business plan, we wanted you out... but we realise now we got it wrong. Go buy Drenthe, Daniel Alves and Sergio Aguero, and while you're at it, tie up Mascherano long term and here's a new 5 year contract..."
You'd possibly have given them a stay of execution. But he didn't. He gave the manager (and thus the fans, the club, the players) a vote of no confidence in front of, and to the delight of, the world's slavering media. He'll have to sack Rafa in the summer, just to keep face. Unless...
Unless he's not there. And he's not too far from doing one, you know. This whole madcap scheme that George has dragged him into is far, far madder, far more expensive, and far less fun than he'd thought it'd be. He thought it was going to be like planting money seeds and picking dollar bills off the tree in a few years time. He thought Liverpool fans were going to be like Dallas Cowboys supporters, if a little louder - but nonetheless grateful for his patronage, and a little bit cowed by his enormous wealth. What he's found here is that it's difficult, it's cold, it's expensive - and the fans care a little too much about their team. They care so much that they answer back to the owners.
That's what we have to do, comrades - answer back, loud and clear. We know the arguments, we know we're not Geordies, we know there's something very un-Liverpool about all this marching and protesting. But there's something very, very Scouse about the refusal to lie down and toe the party line, the refusal to swallow corporate shite and the willingness to strike and fight back if we need to right a wrong.
Our immediate target needs to be Foster Gillett. In the way that these flinty oligarchs always send their disappointing offspring away to the furthest, most hostile outposts of their empire to try and toughen them up, Foster has drawn the Liverpool straw. He's only pretending to live here. He spends his time in London, comes up for the Monday meeting, pads around Melwood then vapourises. He doesn't really want to be here. A sustained period of invective targeted at Foster on Monday night will unsettle him further. He'll be straight on the phone to his Dad saying:
"Look what that idiot partner of yours has subjected me to. I'm out of here."
No matter how rich the magnates or how close their partnership, filial loyalty and the need for a father to protect his offspring will come ahead of everything. The splinters we're hearing about in Hicks and Gillett's relationship will become a chasm, with the effect of accelerating their exit strategy.
Be under no illusions. If DIC come in, they'll want to run it as a business, too. Whoever comes in next - and we could be bracing ourselves for a future where ownership changes hands every 5 or 10 years - will never have Liverpool's traditions running through them like we do. But there's a minimum acceptable standard in ownership too, and Hicks and Gillett have fallen badly short. It gives me no joy to recommend it, but we have to drive them out - starting with Foster on Monday night.
These are critical times for Liverpool F.C. If Hicks stays, Rafa goes - it's that simple. And if Rafa goes, the empire he's building crumbles - no-one would even bet against Carra and Stevie Gerrard walking out on the shell that used to be LFC. All and any other reservations and complaints we've got about ticket allocations, ground moves, and horrid purple ties have to be put to one side. Any feeling about Rafa's rotation and tactics. All to one side. This is Us against Them. The Liverpool Way against The American Way. We've got run the bastards, end of story. Monday night, let them know. Yankees, Yankees fuck off home..."
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT RAFA
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT FANS
LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB
IS IN THE WRONG HANDS
Please use this thread for ideas for next Monday night. Catchy ditties that can be aired by all. Get the message acoss vocally to young Foster in the stands and his guardians back across the Atlantic. Post anything you've got below – and we'll sweep through the best of them over the weekend and get them back up, ready for everyone to air on Monday night. Tuesday night against Luton was just the start. We need to flush this cancer out of our club. We can all play out part. Fighting for The Liverpool Way. We want our club back.
We'll fight for the boys in red,
We'll fight the fight for Liverpool,
The team that Shankly bred….
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17th January 2008, 11:50 AM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
About fuckin time lad.
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17th January 2008, 11:51 AM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
good rallying cry. hope it works.
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17th January 2008, 11:52 AM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Superb rally cry, we've got to show these yank cunts that they are not wanted!
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17th January 2008, 12:01 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Thats the spirit - as you say there is a minimum acceptable level of behaviour that we expect from owners and they have failed it.
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17th January 2008, 12:06 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Good post. Time has come to put our differences away and stand together.
I suggested this song in another thread. Not very original, but everyone knows it, and it’s easy to sing
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
They’re talking shit, shit and more shit
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
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Raaafaa Rafael, Rafa……
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17th January 2008, 12:23 PM
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No doubt there will be people wanting to jump in and have a go at RTK for not doing anything sooner or whatever, but can we leave all that petty shit out and just get behind what they are doing please?
Anything else in counter productive, and takes away focus from the real people we need to be taking on - the owners.
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17th January 2008, 12:27 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Originally Posted by JustTosh
Good post. Time has come to put our differences away and stand together.
I suggested this song in another thread. Not very original, but everyone knows it, and it’s easy to sing
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
They’re talking shit, shit and more shit
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
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Raaafaa Rafael, Rafa……
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That is inspired song writing JustTosh! Brief and to the point! I like it
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17th January 2008, 12:27 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Originally Posted by dave u
No doubt there will be people wanting to jump in and have a go at RTK for not doing anything sooner or whatever, but can we leave all that petty shit out and just get behind what they are doing please?
Anything else in counter productive, and takes away focus from the real people we need to be taking on - the owners.
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Agree with that. It's time to take a stand - even if it's not The Liverpool way.
Hey hey
U S A
Whose club have you fucked today?
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17th January 2008, 12:28 PM
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What about everyone turning and facing the directors box on Monday while singing that song at the start of the match.
Simple and fairly easy to get the word around, while getting the message across
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17th January 2008, 12:30 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
All out war it is then about time you cant have an half arsed protest all or nothing is the only way
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17th January 2008, 12:32 PM
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Whatever is done it has to be inside the stadium. Walkign from he sandon or wherever isn't going to do anything, but if 40,000 fans are giving it some in the ground, on a game thats being televised live, then that will get a message across.
There'll be some who say we should just back the team because we need three points etc, but bollocks to that, some things are more important than three points and getting them out falls into that category.
Parry was let off the hook over the ballot because people didn't want to ruin the teams send off before Athens, or ruin Robbies last game. There's nothing like that at stake on monday night though, so let's fucking do it.
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17th January 2008, 12:35 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Well done RTK.
Just the rallying cry we as a fanbase need.
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17th January 2008, 12:39 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
I put this in another thread, it's probably more apt here.
We cannot be surprised by the ruthlessness displayed by those in power to hang on to that power and the wealth that comes with that power. They will use every means at their disposal, with no concern for human life. When the working class is roused, however, nothing will stop the tide of anger. The signs are still there, bubbling under, the discontent will give way to struggle, and Merseysiders will play their part.
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17th January 2008, 12:40 PM
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We need to do something that can't be ignored, like the "justice for the 96" chant against Arsenal last season that lasted for 10 minutes. If we can sing something against the Yanks from the start of the game, and the whole ground joins in then they'll definitely get the message.
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17th January 2008, 12:42 PM
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How about a minutes silence at the start of the game (after kick off obviously) followed by everyone standing and looking at the directors box and chanting at the yanks to fuck off back home.
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17th January 2008, 12:43 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Both to the same tune take your pick
Sing ,Sing whoever you maybe
We are the fans of LFC
So fuck off Tom Hicks wherever you maybe
Cos you’ve got no class, or dignity
Hicks Out the Texan fat Cat
You need a good fucking with me baseball bat
Cos Rafa’s staying here we all know that
So sell your fucking shares, you slimy Twat
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17th January 2008, 12:46 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Originally Posted by dave u
Whatever is done it has to be inside the stadium. Walkign from he sandon or wherever isn't going to do anything, but if 40,000 fans are giving it some in the ground, on a game thats being televised live, then that will get a message across.
There'll be some who say we should just back the team because we need three points etc, but bollocks to that, some things are more important than three points and getting them out falls into that category.
Parry was let off the hook over the ballot because people didn't want to ruin the teams send off before Athens, or ruin Robbies last game. There's nothing like that at stake on monday night though, so let's fucking do it.
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We need to get something going similar to the 6 minutes for the 96 which really made people aware how we as a fanbase feel. Everyone watching that live televised realised what was going on (even if Henry never!) and that is the best way to get our point across!
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17th January 2008, 12:46 PM
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Have 5 minutes of sustained noise at the beginning following kick off.
get banners made and even just print stuff on A4 paper and hold it up.
Well in RTK, late but not too late. Get behind them and lets get these two cranks out.
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17th January 2008, 12:46 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Originally Posted by Dirk
I put this in another thread, it's probably more apt here.
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17th January 2008, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by aws
Agree with that. It's time to take a stand - even if it's not The Liverpool way.
Hey hey
U S A
Whose club have you fucked today?
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What exactly, other than the usual stereotypical guff, has them being American got to do with anything? Hicks is a giant pillock because he's a giant pillock, not because he's American. Shall we break out the anti-Arab chants if it all goes to shit with DIC?
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17th January 2008, 12:48 PM
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Part of me thinks that if there was a really bad fan backlash it would cause Hicks to dig his heals in more and run us into the ground. He'll never have experienced anything like this with his American teams and he's the sort of unpredictable, wreckless cretin that would fuck us and our manager over for the sake of it.
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17th January 2008, 12:50 PM
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It has to be visual as well as audible because the cunt’s on sky will filter it out
Did anyone notice how they covered the Kop up with the sub's graphic for a good min before kick off in the FA Cup game utter wanker’s
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17th January 2008, 12:50 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
Originally Posted by JustTosh
Good post. Time has come to put our differences away and stand together.
I suggested this song in another thread. Not very original, but everyone knows it, and it’s easy to sing
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
They’re talking shit, shit and more shit
Gillette and Hicks are full of shit
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Raaafaa Rafael, Rafa……
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After your post the other day me and my mates tried to get that going on Tuesday. As you say it's easy to sing and straight to the point 
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17th January 2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: RTK - YANKEE'S GO HOME
I feel we should keep all the banners and chanting anti Yanks rather than asking for DIC to come and save us.
We want to make it explicitly clear to everyone, especially those two that its them that is the problem.
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