bet help

robbief · #1 (**permalink**) 26th November 2007, 11:18 AM

not so much help, but i wanted to get the views of a few of the lads.

i'm backing liverpool 2/5, valencia 4/7, ac milan 1/1 and wanted 1 or 2 more. i fancy throwing around 50 rips on it.

a few options are;

chelsea 4/7 (rosenborg 4/1)
celtic 10/11 (shakhtar 5/2)
blackburn 1/1 (villa 5/2)
sevilla 1/1 (arsenal 11/5)
inter 4/11 (fenerbache 7/1)
united 2/5 (sporting 6/1)

who do we think?

robbief · #2 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 11:54 AM

seen as u lot where less than helpful this time around, i decided to go for it good and proper and split it over today and tomorrow (2 seperate accas).

today-

united 2/5
inter 4/11
forrest 2/7

£50 = £122

tomorrow-

liverpool 2/5
chelsea 4/7
valencia 4/7
wolves 4/7

£50 = £270

ScouseAndy · #3 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 11:56 AM

I've picked out Ipswich and Stuttgart for tonight so far.

How Ipswich can be evens against a Southampton side that got a 5-0 humping of sheff wed last game is beyond me.

Man City with a similar home record where 1.6 to beat Reading as a comparison.

robbief · #4 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 11:57 AM

i fancy stuttgart myself but flapped it. i'v still got my slip here, i'll probably do it. just let me muster up the courage.

edit : sorry it was seville i fancy, also evens.

ScouseAndy · #5 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 12:03 PM

Don't know if it's of any interest to you but there is an online site called betdaq. You can do asian handicap accumulators on there.

For instance Man U are 2.2 to win by 2 with money back if they only win by 1 so they are basically taken out of the acca but you don't lose if they only win by 1 goal.

I've been well more successful just doing a few teams i think will win comfortably rather than 5 or 6 teams to win straight.

robbief · #6 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 12:09 PM

sounds a bit complicated to me. i used to do 7/8/9/10 teams for a tenner and only won once every few months, i'v started doing 3/4 teams for more money and i'm doing ok.

bazbailey · #7 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 12:43 PM

Asian handicaps are the way forward but did not realise you could accumulators on them as well - cheers for the info ScouseAndy

Ian Sea · #8 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 01:58 PM

Just been looking at the Asian handicapps and it seems quite good. Think I'll have a couple of bets in there tonight and see how I get on.

bobhorse · #9 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 02:04 PM

Its a cracking bet seeing as you can always lay your bet off if they do go behind by backing the other team in play

Randy Marsh · #10 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by robbief

sounds a bit complicated to me. i used to do 7/8/9/10 teams for a tenner and only won once every few months, i'v started doing 3/4 teams for more money and i'm doing ok.

I was always the same mate. Always done about 10 teams, always felt confident. I only ever picked big odds on favourite. But there is always some cunt who lets you down. I done one a few months back during an international week. 11 team acca. First 9teams kicked off at 8, all going well except for the dutch who where 0-0 until last minute, van horse scored so all them come in for me. Was counting on spain and portugal to win, who kicked off at 9. Spain were comfortable 2-0, Portugal winning 1-0. 4th minute of bastard injury time the serbs scored to draw with portugal. goal was about 19yards offside to. Twats.
I tend to do as you do now, pick 3 or 4, and put a bit more on. Had one come in at the weekend, Bayern Munich, Barca, Olimpiakos and Fenerbahce i think it was. Not sure about this week yet, dont like doing champs league because there are that many good teams, most can beat eachother on their day. Uefa cups good though, still quite a bit of dross in there

Randy Marsh · #11 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 02:21 PM

Fuck it, done a treble, inter roma and barca, pays about 59quid from a tenner i think

ScouseAndy · #12 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 04:07 PM

Done one serious one:

17:30 CSKA Moscow v PSV (Sky) - Asian Handicap (0) - CSKA Moscow (0)
19:45 Ipswich v Southampton - Match Odds - Ipswich
19:45 Man Utd v Sporting (ITV) - Asian Handicap (-1) - Man Utd (-1)
19:45 VfB Stuttgart v Rangers (Sky) - Match Odds - VfB Stuttgart

odds 13/1

and one stupid one...

17:30 CSKA Moscow v PSV (Sky) - Asian Handicap (0) - CSKA Moscow (0)
19:45 Dynamo Kiev v Roma (Sky) - Asian Handicap (+1) - Dynamo Kiev (+1)
19:45 Inter Milan v Fenerbache (Sky) - Asian Handicap (-1) - Inter Milan (-1)
19:45 Lyon v Barcelona (RTE) - Asian Handicap (0) - Lyon (0)
19:45 Man Utd v Sporting (ITV) - Asian Handicap (-1) - Man Utd (-1)
19:45 Sevilla v Arsenal (ITV4) - Asian Handicap (0) - Sevilla (0)
19:45 Steaua Bucuresti v Slavia Prague (Sky) - Asian Handicap (0) - Steaua Bucuresti (0)
19:45 VfB Stuttgart v Rangers (Sky) - Asian Handicap (0) - VfB Stuttgart (0)

odds 57/1

Ian Sea · #13 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 04:19 PM

I've just done a treble on Arsenal v Sevilla, Lyon v Barca and Stuttgart v Rangers all being draws @ 33/1.

bazbailey · #14 (**permalink**) 27th November 2007, 06:03 PM

Got a couple of pms asking me what an Asian handicap is - here you go in simple terms

Handicap (0)
You win if your team wins the match. If it draws (0 goals difference) you are refunded your stake.

Handicap (+0.25)
You win if your team wins the match. If it draws, your bet is split in half - One half is considered a win, the other half is considered a draw and its stakes refunded.

Handicap (+0.50)
You win if your team draws or wins the match.

Handicap (+0.75)
You win if your team wins or draws the match. If it loses with a one goal difference, you lose 50% of the amount staked.

Handicap (+1)
You win if your team wins or draws the match. If it loses with a one goal difference, you are refunded your stake.

Handicap (+1.25)
You win if your team wins or draws the match. If it loses with a one goal difference, your bet is split in half - One half is considered a win, the other half is considered a draw and its stakes refunded.

Handicap (+1.5)
You win if your team wins, draws or loses the match with a one goal difference.

Handicap (+1.75)
You win if your team wins, draws or loses the match with a one goal difference. If it loses with a two goal difference, you lose 50% of the stake.

Handicap (+2)
You win if your team wins, draws or loses the match with a one goal difference. If it loses with a two goal difference, you are refunded your stake.

Handicap (+2.25)
You win if your team wins, draws or loses the match with a one goal difference. If it loses with a two goal difference your bet is split in half - One half is considered a win, the other half is considered a draw and its stakes refunded.

Handicap (+2.5)
You win if your team wins, draws or loses the match with a goal difference of less than three.

Handicap (-0.25)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of one or more. If it draws, you lose 50% of the stake.

Handicap (-0.5)
You win if your team wins the match.

Handicap (-0.75)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of two or more. If it wins with one goal your bet is split in half - One half is considered a win, the other half is considered a draw and its stakes refunded.

Handicap (-1)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of two or more. If it wins with a one goal difference, you are refunded your stake.

Handicap (-1.25)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of two or more. If it wins with just a one goal difference, you lose 50% of the stake.

Handicap (-1.50)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of two or more.

Handicap (-1.75)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of three or more. If it wins with a two goal difference, your bet is split in half - One half is considered a win, the other half is considered a draw and its stakes refunded.

Handicap (-2)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of three or more. If it wins with a two goal difference, you are refunded your stake.

Handicap (-2.25)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of three or more. If it wins with a two goal difference, you lose 50% of the stake.

Handicap (-2.50)
You win if your team wins the match with a goal difference of three or more.

Ian Sea · #15 (**permalink**) 28th November 2007, 10:27 AM

What does everyone think about backing Liverpool tonight? I fancy us to win but just hope all the stuff about Benitez doesn't distract the players.

Thants · #16 (**permalink**) 28th November 2007, 10:29 AM

Never back your own team.

Dirk · #17 (**permalink**) 28th November 2007, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by bazbailey

Got a couple of pms asking me what an Asian handicap is

Sick fuckers.

robbief · #18 (**permalink**) 28th November 2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Ian Sea

I've just done a treble on Arsenal v Sevilla, Lyon v Barca and Stuttgart v Rangers all being draws @ 33/1.

thats why it was on 33's...............

..........the beef on the other hand, will be making a short trip to the bookies to collect his 122.73 rips. put 50 back on liverpool, chelsea, valencia and milan and walk with his other 70.