Gerrard on Lucas

[WeAreTheBest]

Originally Posted by Rashid

When you have to deal with pages and pages of bullshit (and I am not saying I am not guilty of it too) about where players play, who is what and the small details of things - and then you see how the manager sees it you tend to get a little tempted to remind people about that bullshit. I have done it now so that's that. As you were.

Oh right. Amazing stuff.

By the way you've not exactly proved anyone wrong seeing as Benitez calls him more of a "complete midfielder".

[rebel23]

I think he'll be an excellent player in a year or twos time, he probably needs about 40/50 games

he is a box-to-box player ('Brazilian Gerrard'), he's got good energy, passing and an eye for goal

[Red Nick]

Originally Posted by Unrighteous

I think Gerrard, Lucas, Alonso, and Mascherano will give us more than enough options and we'll be able to keep all of them happy, IMO.

Long term i just dont see it

When a CL final comes up and your not playing in it, then you wont be happy, you might get your fair share of league games but if your not playing against manu, Arsenal and Chelsea again your not happy.

Whilst he is learning the ropes obviously he's happy for whatever games he gets but when he proved himself to be good enough then thats the time that competition for places can be a bad thing as well as a good thing

[coop]

Originally Posted by Rashid

coop - whilst I like Lucas that's bollox. Medjani was France U21 or U18 captain in their hey day, and Milan Baros was Euro 2004 top score - both have been thrown out of Anfield.

Edit: Did I mention Smicer's amazing international record?

I said Brazil u-21 - i didnt mention fuck all about France or Baros.

[Owen]

Originally Posted by Rashid

When you have to deal with pages and pages of bullshit (and I am not saying I am not guilty of it too) about where players play, who is what and the small details of things - and then you see how the manager sees it you tend to get a little tempted to remind people about that bullshit. I have done it now so that's that. As you were.

Do you ever stop talking arse?

[ATXRED]

Originally Posted by Rashid

What's the difference between a holding midfield player and a defensive midfielder?

ATXRED - He said "He can remain as a holding midfielder" - which to me suggests he was bought as a holding midfielder or is currently a holding midfielder, but has the talent to do more. Which is not what people were arguing on here a week ago.

Let's look at the whole quote, as opposed to one word, or the first half of the sentence shall we?

"He can remain as a holding midfielder but he also likes to get forward because he scores goals, so he is more of a complete midfielder."

In the context of that sentence (the whole sentence), I think the key word is "can". TO ME, Rafa is saying he has the positional awareness to play in the holding midfield position that Rafa must see as a necessity, yet still be able to bomb forward from time to time to score goals and in general, contribute to the attack. He ends by saying "he is more of a complete midfielder". So does that mean Rafa thinks he's a more defensive minded "complete midfielder"? Maybe, but if he's getting forward to aid the attack and score goals from time to time, as well as protect the back four, that would be fucking awesome.

So in conclusion, what I said earlier is still what I think, and in the context of the whole quote, it makes sense.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

Originally Posted by Unrighteous

Does anyone else read Rafa's quotes in his accent? Or am I just a nutter?

Thank fuck someone else does it to lol

[aws]

I think he's a holding, attacking, defensive, complete kind of midfielder.

[Alan Sex]

Originally Posted by Rashid

When you have to deal with pages and pages of bullshit (and I am not saying I am not guilty of it too) about where players play, who is what and the small details of things - and then you see how the manager sees it you tend to get a little tempted to remind people about that bullshit. I have done it now so that's that. As you were.

Does anyone else read Rashid's quotes in a Peter Sellers style Indian accent? I know I do, and I always have a giggle after.

[MLB]

I think he looks like a good, well-rounded player but I haven't seen him offer much out of the ordinary yet. He seems the type who does everything quite well, but we're yet to see anything really classy from him. Hopefully that is yet to come.

[Kev Saunderson]

Originally Posted by Unrighteous

Does anyone else read Rafa's quotes in his accent? Or am I just a nutter?

Thats fucking brilliant. Yes, yes I do. I have tried not to but the Spanish accent just takes over.

[GJM]

Originally Posted by Alan Sex

Does anyone else read Rashid's quotes in a Peter Sellers style Indian accent? I know I do, and I always have a giggle after.

Not me. It's more of a generic south east whine that I detect. Like the sound of a thousand Nissan Pimera drivers endlessly tutting about the noisy air conditioning.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Red Nick

I said on a previous thread that Lucas will be world class and a star but I did question if it would be at anfield. The only way I can see him making it at anfield is if we dont sign Mascherano to a long term deal.

Whatever happens Lucas will be a star

You accidentally have a point here. I share it, but with another reason:

Lucas seems like a great prospect. To get the best out of him in a longer perspective he has to be given freedom to defend AND attack to learn both sides of the game. I am worried that Rafa`s safety first policy will prevent him from developing the attacking side of his game.