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Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
Real Madrid overtakes Manchester United
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LONDON (AP) - The top 20 richest clubs, based on revenue, as listed by accountancy firm Deloitte in its independent "Football Money League" report released Thursday:
1. Real Madrid, Spain, €275.7 million (US$328.19 million).
2. Manchester United, England, €246.4 million (US$293.31 million).
3. AC Milan, Italy, €234 million (US$278.55 million).
4. Juventus, Italy, €229.4 million (US$273.08 million).
5. Chelsea, England, €220.8 million (US$262.84 million).
6. FC Barcelona, Spain, €207.9 million (US$247.48 million).
7. Bayern Munich, Germany, €189.5 million (US$225.58 million).
8. Liverpool, England, €181.2 million (US$215.7 million).
9. Inter Milan, Italy, €177.2 million (US$210.94 million).
10. Arsenal, England, €171.3 million (US$203.92 million).
11. AS Roma, Italy, €131.8 million (US$156.89 million).
12. Newcastle, England, €128.9 million (US$153.44 million).
13. Tottenham, England, €104.5 million (US$124.4 million).
14. Schalke 04, Germany, €97.4 million (US$115.94 million).
15. Lyon, France, €92.9 million (US$110.59 million).
16. Celtic, Scotland, €92.7 million (US$110.35 million).
17. Manchester City, England, €90.1 million (US$107.26 million).
18. Everton, England, €88.8 million (US$105.71 million).
19. Valencia, Spain, €84.6 million (US$100.71 million).
20. Lazio, Italy, €83.1 million (US$98.92 million).
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Real Madrid overtakes Manchester United
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LONDON (AP) - The top 20 richest clubs, based on revenue, as listed by accountancy firm Deloitte in its independent "Football Money League" report released Thursday:
1. Real Madrid, Spain, €275.7 million (US$328.19 million).
2. Manchester United, England, €246.4 million (US$293.31 million).
3. AC Milan, Italy, €234 million (US$278.55 million).
4. Juventus, Italy, €229.4 million (US$273.08 million).
5. Chelsea, England, €220.8 million (US$262.84 million).
6. FC Barcelona, Spain, €207.9 million (US$247.48 million).
7. Bayern Munich, Germany, €189.5 million (US$225.58 million).
8. Liverpool, England, €181.2 million (US$215.7 million).
9. Inter Milan, Italy, €177.2 million (US$210.94 million).
10. Arsenal, England, €171.3 million (US$203.92 million).
11. AS Roma, Italy, €131.8 million (US$156.89 million).
12. Newcastle, England, €128.9 million (US$153.44 million).
13. Tottenham, England, €104.5 million (US$124.4 million).
14. Schalke 04, Germany, €97.4 million (US$115.94 million).
15. Lyon, France, €92.9 million (US$110.59 million).
16. Celtic, Scotland, €92.7 million (US$110.35 million).
17. Manchester City, England, €90.1 million (US$107.26 million).
18. Everton, England, €88.8 million (US$105.71 million).
19. Valencia, Spain, €84.6 million (US$100.71 million).
20. Lazio, Italy, €83.1 million (US$98.92 million).
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BUT.....by Revenue?
Polly Peck, MG Rover & Enron scored well on 'Revenue' (Turnover)!
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
Chelsea had a £200 million deficit (not sure on the exact amount, though). What are those figures trying to prove? Think it might be £140 million, actually but still.
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
How the fuck do Everton come in at 18th.
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15th February 2006, 10:01 PM
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How the fuck do Everton come in at 18th.
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15th February 2006, 10:08 PM
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How the fuck do Everton come in at 18th.
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
Rushian and Tim - How does Juve make so much money on their gates?
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
I think it includes expenditure and isn't truly indicative of profit. Abramovich's millions have catapulted Chelsea up the list but they haven't made a profit at all, in fact, if the £140 million or so Roman propped them up with, last season, was removed, they would be near Everton. Everton overspent last season and that over spend is reflected in them being in the top 20. The figures are turnover, not profit. I think that's right, Tim might be able to clear it up.
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Rushian and Tim - How does Juve make so much money on their gates?
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Where does it say they do? They recently signed a £100m+ a year contract for PPV TV, I'd expect them to top the list next year. |
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Rushian and Tim - How does Juve make so much money on their gates?
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Juventus, Milan and Inter all have their own deals with TV companies for showing their domestic matches in Italy meaning that they get over half of the total pot of money spent by TV in Italy. They make at least twice what we and the Mancs and Arsenal get from the collective agreement with Sky. The same happens in Spain with Real and Barca. The revenue they earn from fans attending the match is minute in comparison with England. They look on enviously at the fact that fans are willing to shell out £30+ for tickets over here. |
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The figures are turnover, not profit. I think that's right, Tim might be able to clear it up.
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That's spot on YKI, so it means fuck all in the grand scheme of things. Lazio, Roma, Everton, Celtic, Manchester City and Chelsea all feature, but all have huge debts, so they have to maximise their incomes to fund those debts. It doesn't mean that they're in a strong position because they feature in this list. |
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Rushian and Tim - How does Juve make so much money on their gates?
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They have the biggest TV deal and the biggest shirt sponsorship in world football. Shirt sponsorship deal soon to be surpassed by Barcelona though. |
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
The list is indeed based on turnover which isn't really a good indicator. Then again picking anything in isolation doesn't really give a good indication. What they should really do is, and probably have done, a complete analysis of the finances in general. Debt to equity ratio, interest cover, cashflow from operating activities etc. It would provide a more comprehensive look at how well the clubs are being run financially.
Rashid, your question confuses me a little. Do you mean how can they get so much in gate receipts (and if so what makes you think they get alot?) or do you mean how can they get so much money despite generally having low attendances?
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
Juventus got 97m euros from media rights last year and 55m euros from sponsorship and commercial rights.
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
It was an attempt at sarcasm, but it failed miserably. I get where the money is coming frow now thanks.
Tim - What they really should do is fiddle the numbers somehow, because the European Champions and Englands most successful club should not be behind Chelsea or Bayern Munich in the turnover stakes for last year.
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
Here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go - ad infinitum.
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Re: Deloitte's list of soccer's richest clubs
It's not based on profit, just income.
Wyness was trundled out by the Today programme on Radio 4 this morning, as na expert?!!  When asked if it was a mistake for Utd to sell Beckham to Real, he replied that on these figures it was. Hmmmm, so if that is true, then it must have been a fucking disaster for you to sell Rooney to Utd you tit.
Of course, in reality if the players won't sign a new contract you're screwed anyway. Some expert.
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