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18th January 2004, 09:46 PM
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Surely his worst comment ever
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drill...40118-1522.htmThis is indefensible. Our plan was to try to win the game only in the last 30 minutes? Against Tottenham?
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18th January 2004, 10:02 PM
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
The last part, "to me even a bad Liverpool side should have gotten something from the game" Well, Msr Houillier how the hell are you going to get something from the game with three fullbacks on the flaming bench? Yeah, lets hit them in the last half-hour- BY SUBBING full backs. It wouldn't surprise me if he becnhed Henchoz for blasting over the bar- or put him upfront with Emil*. Nothing surprises me anymore. If we lose to Wolves he'll say they are a quality side cause they beat the mancs. Here is the starting 11 for Wednesday-
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Finnan Cheyrou Hyppia Murphy
Hamman Luzi Riise Owen
Carra Henchoz
Cheyrou is midfielder, so he can play central defence. Luzi needs to play as I signed him, so I'll put him in midfiwld with JAR. Mikey can get his form back playing in the midfield. I told Henchoz to keep his shots down and the goals will come, and if Henchoz can play forward so can Carra- plus less chance of reinjurin g himself up front. The substitues will be Kirkland, Harrison and Jones because three fullbacks didn't work last time so maybe three keepers will. Wolves are a top quality side and with a little luck could be challenging for CL spot. And I would like to have Martin O'Neill to stop calling me. This time we will turn the corner where we'll find blessings in disguise. Maybe they will be disguised as footballers with names like Heske* and Biscan, non?
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18th January 2004, 10:14 PM
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
I've just read through his comment again. Is he saying we deliberately defended in the first half at Yeovil? Paisley and Shankly often told the team to "quiten the crowd" in the first 20 minutes. I didn't agree with it then. The best way to "quiten the crowd" is to put 2 goals past their goalkeeper in the first 20 minutes.
I feel a "Dear Mr. Moores......" letter welling up inside of me.
By the way, bet you're wrong on the Wolves line up. 
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18th January 2004, 10:17 PM
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
Yeah, perhaps- Jones will probably get the nod ahead of Luzi  .
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"I don't think we have a level of maturity at the moment to manage that in a game like this."
Shoot me. Now.
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
I don't get these comments by him. They are confusing
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
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Originally Posted by johnb
"I don't think we have a level of maturity at the moment to manage that in a game like this."
Shoot me. Now.
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The whole article made no sense to me. My son reminded me of the actions taken by Bobby Robson last season when Newcastle were 2 zip down and managed to gain a point. I still can't get my head around his selections for the bench!!! 
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19th January 2004, 01:49 PM
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
What bizarre comments. I can't see how they make sense. Is he criticising his own gameplan? The last paragraph seems to be someone else's comments - surely not GH's.
Knowing how GH is full of excuses, these words don't seem to be his.
If they are his, then please, SHOOT ME AS WELL!
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
While I agree that most of Houllier's post match comments are either complete gibberish or simple bullshit, I would very much like to know what his biggest critics would want him to say (apart from "I quit"  )
If he says: "I am very disappointed with my players etc." then people would say, "well you bought them, now go".
If he says "We weren't up for it etc." then people would retort with "Well, it's your job to motivate them, now go"
If he says "The seagulls follow the trawler", then people would say...
...get my drift?
What do you want him to say after a defeat. He can't not do the interviews so he's got to say something. What would it be, seriously? What should he have said after Spurs (or any other defeat?)
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19th January 2004, 01:59 PM
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
Thought this today was a bit naughty though
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drill...40119-1337.htm
Not once did he say we would be higher in the league but for referees, as the headline suggests. He merely pointed out that we have been denied four blatant pens, probably in response to a question about the one we didn't get on saturday.
That headline is misleading and makes him look a tit. What he actually said was true, but it's been reported in a way which suggests he's blaiming refs for our league position.
I know he talks crap and is full of excuses, but this time I think he's been hard done by.
The original quotes in this thread though are indefensible. My question is why are people surprised by them? That's how he plays the game. Always has, always will.
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19th January 2004, 02:08 PM
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
Yeah, fair play about the pens- but you could look at it this way- if Hesk** hadn't missed a sitter agaionst the mancs- 1 pt. If Hesk** had run the ball out against City- 3 pts. Penalties even themselves out (usually)- we got a late one against Fulham. I mean, look at Villa yesterday- now the were hard done by. If that happened to us - christ, what a tit that Halsey is. we are where we are because we are what we are and we are a fifth place squad.
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
I dunno, why couldn't he said something like "it will even itself out over the course of the season" or something? It still sounds like excuses to me.
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19th January 2004, 02:39 PM
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Even more bizarre when he keeps banging on about our attacking football. I think those comments are an absolute disgrace. By all means adopt those tactics at United, Roma, Barca or wherever, but Tottenham and Yeovil? And I'll add to that Middlesbrough and Newcastle...
How many shots did we have on goal on Saturday by the way....
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19th January 2004, 02:49 PM
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
Basically you can sum it up like this. He's negative, defensive, boring (call it what you will). He won't change, so you're either prepared to accept it, or you aren't. That's oversimplifying things I know, but it's basically how things are.
Personally, I think a manager who sends a team out against Yeovil with instructions to keep it tight til half time has no business at Liverpool Football Club. But that's just me. It certainly explains why he felt his players were 'magnificent' and 'can be proud of themselves' though doesn't it.
Also, to those who criticised the players after that game. How do you feel now, seeing as how the manager has revealed that he told them to play like that in the first half? I was a bit miffed at the attitude of some of the side that day, but now I feel very differently about it.
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19th January 2004, 02:54 PM
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Re: Surely his worst comment ever
If I was a player in the current squad, I don't think I'd be too happy being told to keep it tight. I've thought for a while the players never seem to look like they're enjoying themselves, and I'm not surprised.
Let them play football.
Oh, and his latest comments for the scrap book:
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Gerard Houllier claims Liverpool would be higher in the league table had poor refereeing decisions not cost them points this season.
The Reds' manager was seething after Uriah Rennie refused to give his side a late penalty in the 2-1 defeat at Tottenham when Gary Doherty clearly handled the ball inside his own penalty area.
Houllier says Rennie's decision to turn down Liverpool's appeals was the fourth time the Reds have been denied a penalty this season.
"I know we didn't play well, but we should have had a penalty," said the manager. "It was a blatant penalty and it is the fourth occasion since the beginning of the season we have been denied.
"It is incredible, but we should have had a penalty against Manchester United, against Middlesbrough which would have won us the game, against Southampton and now a penalty against Spurs.
"It was cast iron on Saturday. Everyone could see it, but I don't think we played well until the last 20 minutes."
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May all have been penalties, but it's no excuse. Had we played better football and created more chances in those matches it wouldn't have mattered. Says a lot when those penalty incidents were in the last part of the game. What about what happened before those incidents???? Excuses excuses. Had we won those games from creating real chances, he would never mention those decisions.
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His players, his tactics, his decisions, his "ethos", his fingerprints...
but not his fault. Remember that.
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"Oh, and his latest comments for the scrap book"
Sorry, didn't you mean 'crap book'?
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