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Old 27th September 2007, 09:02 AM
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The steady demise of the hyphen
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7004661.stm

I am all in favour of the language developing, but I think this has been done too soon. I am particularly disappointed in the decision to make one word out of things like bumblebee and chickpea. The latter being particularly offensive. They are supposed to follow popular usage, but i don't think I have seen anyone use chickpea. Mrs RiS is furious about this.
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Old 27th September 2007, 09:12 AM
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
Does this make my surname Kavanaghgrover?
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Old 27th September 2007, 09:43 AM
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
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Does this make my surname Kavanaghgrover?
Not yet, but if OED decide it you are fucked mate.
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Old 27th September 2007, 10:17 AM
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
The hyphen clarifies Red-In-Sweden, does nothing for Re-Mmie and destroys the meaning of P-l-e-w-g-g-s.

However, the hyphen enhances Rash-id…….it reminds us what a plank of wood looks like!
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Old 27th September 2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
It'll be the full-stop next. Or the fullstop. I despair.
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Old 27th September 2007, 10:49 AM
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
As punctuation and dotty things go, you can't beat a good umlaut.
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Old 27th September 2007, 10:57 AM
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
A little confused thought you meant hymen.
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Old 27th September 2007, 11:09 AM
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
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A little confused thought you meant hymen.
Aye, since the days of Dick Turpin there has been a steady demise in Highwaymen.

Although didn't Harry Secombe earn his living that way for a while?
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Old 27th September 2007, 11:45 AM
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It'll be the full-stop next. Or the fullstop. I despair.
You really think that we'll still be calling them full-stops or fullstops by the time the next dictionary comes out? We'll be fully Americanized by then, with periods meaning full stops and rubbers meaning something other than erasers. In fact period won't even mean fullstop because we'll just start calling it Dot. Which used to be short for Dorothy. Gray and Grey will be changed too I imagine, probably merged with some other color.
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
I agree with this bloke:

The use of a hyphen to yoke two nouns has declined because, quite simply, it usually isn't necessary. One knows through common sense that a walking stick, which used to be walking-stick, is a stick for walking (a verbal noun + a noun) rather than a stick that walks (a participial adj. + a noun).

Indeed, it is a mistake to make a fuss about punctuation unless clarity or actual meaning is at stake. As the house-style guide of Oxford University Press used to say, "If you take hyphens seriously, you will surely go mad."
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Old 27th September 2007, 12:31 PM
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Re: The steady demise of the hyphen
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I agree with this bloke:

The use of a hyphen to yoke two nouns has declined because, quite simply, it usually isn't necessary. One knows through common sense that a walking stick, which used to be walking-stick, is a stick for walking (a verbal noun + a noun) rather than a stick that walks (a participial adj. + a noun).

Indeed, it is a mistake to make a fuss about punctuation unless clarity or actual meaning is at stake. As the house-style guide of Oxford University Press used to say, "If you take hyphens seriously, you will surely go mad."
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True enough. My main gripe is when two words become one. I don't like that one bit.
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Old 27th September 2007, 12:33 PM
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Indeed, it is a mistake to make a fuss about punctuation unless clarity or actual meaning is at stake.
I don't think you needed to underline (or indeed underscore) that; we knew what you were getting at.

(Such a shame that underlining is presentation as opposed to punctuation.)
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True enough. My main gripe is when two words become one. I don't like that one bit.
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Shutup celeryface.
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True enough. My main gripe is when two words become one. I don't like that one bit.
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