Migration is the new immigration

[Michael Howard]

So then. Where do we stand on the expected influx of East European "migrants" from Bulgaria and Romania (as well as the larger than expected numbers that have already arrived from Poland and the Baltic States etc).

and why do we seem to have dropped the im. . bit from the word "immigration"? is migrant better than immigrant?

[Monkeywool]

Just because it makes it seem more palatable to the silly chavs in the country. I have gone for we will have some if you have some. vis-a-vie you take the chavs and the mancs, we will have your hotties

[aws]

Let in all the good ones and keep out all the bad ones.

An easy task for a government as competent as our own.

[tokyojoe]

While we have this ridiculous welfare state system we'll always attract the garbage.

[Michael Howard]

We keep being told this is a massive political issue but I am strangely ambivalent about it. Probably because I live in an area which has negligible immigration - so I have no direct experience of the effect such migration has.

I do find it strange though how whole nationalities are branded - Poles are generally regarded as hard working and decent. Kosovans are branded thieves and gangsters.

Its now the Bulgarians and Romanians and I detect they are being subtly branded as thieving gypos in this debate.

5 Live were in Warsaw this morning and they said that there is a shortage of manual labour in Poland because so many have gone to the UK (and also Ireland) and this gap is being filled by Ukranians moving to Poland.

[bri]

Was talking about this the other week, with some mates. He's a bit more liberal on the subject than I am. The problem I see with all these lesser economic eastern european countries coming into the EU is that is 99% one way traffic. It's not like you see or hear of any people moving to Bulgaria is it. We've had migration to this country since the 50's and personally I see London and England as one of the most tolerant countries on the planet. But there is a limit.

And that's where I stand it needs to be limited. You can see it already, the DHS, dole, social whatever it is doesnt catch the migration workforce that falls out of the system. So if you can't support yourself, pay taxes etc give em BFH Bus fare Home and put a 5 yr ban on the passport or something

[Stu Monty]

Just apply the criteria we apply to immigrants to everyone and your problem is sorted. There's be a lot of lazy scallies being booted over to work for a living in Bulgaria like but they had a chance and wasted it.

[aws]

Originally Posted by Stu Monty Just apply the criteria we apply to immigrants to everyone and your problem is sorted. There's be a lot of lazy scallies being booted over to work for a living in Bulgaria like but they had a chance and wasted it.

Good idea. We should do swap deals with Bulgaria and Romania. We'd like to take 100,000 off you but we've got to get 100,000 of our own off the books first.

[Michael Howard]

Originally Posted by Stu Monty Just apply the criteria we apply to immigrants to everyone and your problem is sorted. There's be a lot of lazy scallies being booted over to work for a living in Bulgaria like but they had a chance and wasted it.

Now you're talking my kind of language

Stu Monty - the Left's Norman Tebbit

[BENIRL]

The Romanians we have over in Ireland already are thieving gypsey bastards

[Dirk]

Originally Posted by BENIRL The Romanians we have over in Ireland already are thieving gypsey bastards

As are the Irish people we have over here.

[BENIRL]

Originally Posted by Dirk As are the Irish people we have over here.

[Strontium Dog]

Originally Posted by joeyb It's not like you see or hear of any people moving to Bulgaria is it.

Michael Shields?























I shall get my coat...

[CharleyKnight]

Its simple. If you want to work and contribute to this country come in, if you don't fuck off. Next question.

[navbasi]

In my eyes there is a difference - the migrants are here to work, and they pay taxes like the rest of us and more likely than not they will return back to their homeland with the money they have earned hence helping to pay for the shortfall in the pension system, as they will not be around to collect in 30-40 years time. They have no right to the Dole/Housing etc unless they have been out of work for 6 months. They are entitled to receive medical on the NHS but then why not, they pay their taxes...

Immigrants are here on a free hand out from the state. They are housed and given benefit from the minute they enter and really have no plans on ever returning to their homelands as they will probably have claimed political asylum... these are the fuckers that should be sent back.

There was a programme on BB2 the other day. There was a company that employed people to unpack fish off the boats (or something like that).. The pay was £5.50 an hour for a 12 hour shift from 1am-1pm 7days a week. The company had 30 vacancies - off all the people that applied not one was ENGLISH..... The bloke who ran the company he was basically saying that the English are lazy twats and what does he do? The jobs are open to all but the English do want to do hard manual labour.....

[DJLJ]

migrate |ˈmīˌgrāt| verb [ intrans. ] (of an animal, typically a bird or fish) move from one region or habitat to another, esp. regularly according to the seasons : as autumn arrives, the birds migrate south. • (of a person) move from one area or country to settle in another, esp. in search of work : rural populations have migrated to urban areas. • move from one specific part of something to another : cells that can form pigment migrate beneath the skin. • Computing change or cause to change from using one system to another. • [ trans. ] Computing transfer (programs or hardware) from one system to another. DERIVATIVES migration |mīˈgrā sh ən| noun migrational |mīˈgrā sh ənl| adjective migrator |-ˌgrātər| noun migratory |ˈmīgrəˌtôrē| adjective ORIGIN early 17th cent.(in the general sense [move from one place to another] ): from Latin migrat- ‘moved, shifted,’ from the verb migrare.

immigrate |ˈimiˌgrāt| verb [ intrans. ] come to live permanently in a foreign country : the Mennonites immigrated to western Canada in the 1870s. ORIGIN early 17th cent.: from Latin immigrat- ‘immigrated,’ from the verb immigrare, from in- ‘into’ + migrare ‘migrate.’ USAGE See usage at emigrate .

emigrate |ˈemiˌgrāt| verb [ intrans. ] leave one's own country in order to settle permanently in another : Rosa's parents emigrated from Argentina. DERIVATIVES emigration |ˌemiˈgrā sh ən| noun ORIGIN late 18th cent.: from Latin emigrat- ‘emigrated,’ from the verb emigrare, from e- (variant of ex-) ‘out of’ + migrare ‘migrate.’ USAGE To emigrate is to leave a country, esp. one’s own, intending to remain away. To immigrate is to enter a country, intending to remain there:: my aunt emigrated from Poland and immigrated to Canada.